Shadow Puppets Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: The Cunha goal the other night against Arsenal showed the type of player we could do with, someone that can pull something out of their arse, take a chance and win a match. Other than Bruno we just don’t have anyone who can do that. Barnes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turnbull2000 said: Can we even afford to strengthen this January? We must be edging close to the PSR limit again and risk breaching the new spending-to-turnover regulations. With a 7-8th place sized budget, our squad is potentially at it's upper limit anyway unless we see a sustained, non-CL related increase in income. That finance guru said we are in a very strong position, and could spend 200m over the next two windows and be in line with PSR. I dont think money is the problem, but the players available. Edited January 27 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 22 minutes ago, nufc123 said: That finance guru said we are in a very strong position, and could spend 200m over the next two windows and be in line with PSR. I dont think money is the problem, but the players available. Or that Howes not getting backed after that summer. Not saying it's the case but is a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Why didn't we get Rayan? Just once I'd like to get one of these great youngsters we're always linked with but never buy. The last one was Hall and Tino and I don't remember much competition for those due to the price we paid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: Why didn't we get Rayan? Just once I'd like to get one of these great youngsters we're always linked with but never buy. The last one was Hall and Tino and I don't remember much competition for those due to the price we paid. You do know that most of the links are completely fabricated ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Because our fan base would turn on him if he wasn't an instant success. Sadly that isn't even a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 23 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Because our fan base would turn on him if he wasn't an instant success. Sadly that isn't even a joke Maybe true for some fans, but I think it highly depends on the price tag. Cheaper fees, and I think a majority of the fanbase will be more lenient. Who doesn't love an underdog story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Weezertron said: Maybe true for some fans, but I think it highly depends on the price tag. Cheaper fees, and I think a majority of the fanbase will be more lenient. Who doesn't love an underdog story. Problem is, lots of our fans don't understand how price inflation has impacted football transfers. £40m now is not the same as £40m a couple of seasons ago. And ultimately the player doesn't set his price, unless it's a release clause. So what's the point in taking it out on a player who's got a good attitude but might not have hit the ground running, when it was their former club who agreed a price that our club was willing to pay for their transfer. Edited January 27 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Sir Joel Inton said: It makes no sense to be in the position we are and not strengthen. Our scouting and transfer structure is so disjointed and makes little sense to me. Feels like a constant power struggle no matter who we have in post. But then again I said the same this time last year and we went on to win a cup and qualify for the CL. What's the evidence of a power struggle atm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 56 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Why didn't we get Rayan? Just once I'd like to get one of these great youngsters we're always linked with but never buy. The last one was Hall and Tino and I don't remember much competition for those due to the price we paid. Have you seen him play much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 47 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Because our fan base would turn on him if he wasn't an instant success. Sadly that isn't even a joke You dont think Elanga would get pelters at any other top club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: The Cunha goal the other night against Arsenal showed the type of player we could do with, someone that can pull something out of their arse, take a chance and win a match. Other than Bruno we just don’t have anyone who can do that. Not sure if Howe is a fan of Cunha but we definitely wanted Mbuemo. Not much we can do if the Big Five clubs are in for the same players though. We can't match them for either wages or stature yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 25 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Problem is, lots of our fans don't understand how price inflation has impacted football transfers. £40m now is not the same as £40m a couple of seasons ago. And ultimately the player doesn't set his price, unless it's a release clause. So what's the point in taking it out on a player who's got a good attitude but might not have hit the ground running, when it was their former club who agreed a price that our club was willing to pay for their transfer. I understand your point, but you're asking to change an entire culture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TRon said: Not sure if Howe is a fan of Cunha but we definitely wanted Mbuemo. Not much we can do if the Big Five clubs are in for the same players though. We can't match them for either wages or stature yet. We definitely did. We’d be having a different season if we had picked up Mbeumo and Ekitike. Both were top of the relevant list as, I think, Guehi was. Whilst we fell on our feet with Thiaw, we have to play with what we have/could get in other positions. That said, plenty of others we were in for/looking at haven’t exactly set the league on fire. Edited January 27 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, Weezertron said: I understand your point, but you're asking to change an entire culture. From little acorns grow mighty oaks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: From little acorns grow mighty oaks Good luck! lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 34 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What's the evidence of a power struggle atm? “Feels like…” But if pressed, I’d say the reports that we continuously seem to hear about, including recent posts on this thread about how we structured our summer business. As well as the fact we appear stagnant in this January market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Fucking tea leaves then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 42 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Problem is, lots of our fans don't understand how price inflation has impacted football transfers. £40m now is not the same as £40m a couple of seasons ago. And ultimately the player doesn't set his price, unless it's a release clause. So what's the point in taking it out on a player who's got a good attitude but might not have hit the ground running, when it was their former club who agreed a price that our club was willing to pay for their transfer. It's still the same 40M for PSR when we're restricted from increasing revenue like those who have come before, and more importantly the PSR mechanic itself hasn't matched the vast inflation in transfer fees. Not sure if that's better with the new incoming rules? I think I'm agreeing with your point but those two facts still make me unreasonably annoyed. Compounded by the Ryanair Reds and e-Fans etc giving it the big one as if they didn't choose 'their' team because they happened to be the most successful in the country, and can make mistake after mistake after mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 All of them have a unique back story as well because of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Sir Joel Inton said: It makes no sense to be in the position we are and not strengthen. Our scouting and transfer structure is so disjointed and makes little sense to me. Feels like a constant power struggle no matter who we have in post. But then again I said the same this time last year and we went on to win a cup and qualify for the CL. I’m the opposite I can totally see why we won’t. The squad probably needs some sort of overhaul and that’s going to be more doable in the summer. We’re in touching distance of the European places and it’s not out of the question Howe finds a solution and grinds results to get us there - I don’t think we’ll suddenly start playing beautiful football but we’re capable of getting results. Add in PSR and how poor value is in January and I just can’t see it. Personally I think we’re desperate for a 1st team addition for a morale boost but I can see why it won’t happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 52 minutes ago, AJ9 said: Fucking tea leaves then Did I ever suggest I had hard evidence of it existing? It’s no less valid than your assumption based on *checks notes* tea leaves that everything is absolutely fine. Edited January 27 by Sir Joel Inton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Thread title needs edited from "Rumours" to "Opinions" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRon said: Not sure if Howe is a fan of Cunha but we definitely wanted Mbuemo. Not much we can do if the Big Five clubs are in for the same players though. We can't match them for either wages or stature yet. Agreed. I didn’t mean we should’ve gone for either as yes it’s become apparent that we can’t match the likes of Man U for wages. I was more making the point that we lack match winners in our squad who can turn games and do something different. I guess in fairness Barnes is a finisher who can turn some games like that West Ham match. Edited January 27 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Would take Paqueta for £35 mil - just saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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