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12 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Full resets are usually catastrophic 

It worked for mackems and Forest. Although I appreciate that was all about staying up, not challenging for Europe and trophies. 

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15 hours ago, TorchyTBB said:

Selling Murphy would be ridiculous, he's worth far more to us as a squad player than what we would get by way of a likely lowish transfer fee.  He's a still far better option than Elanga.  And he's one of our own.

There's no room for that type of sentiment unfortunately. He needs to go, Elanga becomes our backup and we sign an actual football in that position - not sure that's what will happen but it's what should.

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7 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

There's no room for that type of sentiment unfortunately. He needs to go, Elanga becomes our backup and we sign an actual football in that position - not sure that's what will happen but it's what should.

 

There's absolutely no reason to sell Murphy, we're very unlikely to be able to replace his output in assists / goals. And it does matter that he is a positive presence in the dressing room, that is invaluable and if the ballance between players who really care and those just here to do a job is off in the dressing room it can have a massive impact on the pitch.

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In Robin Risser Lens  - Out Ramsdale 6

In Honest Ahanor Atalanta - Out Schar

In Givairo Read Feyernoord - Out Livaremento

In Lamine Camara Monaco - Out Tonali

In Kees Smit AZ - Out Joe Willock

In Mane Wolves - Out Murphy

In Said El Mala Cologne 

 

If we sell Woltemade or Wissa then a more accomplished striker as well. We’d be hoovering up some of the best young talent in Europe with the above and it would lower the age of squad.

 

This window needs to be revolutionary and whether Howe is the correct manager for the rebuild needed is open to debate.

 

I think there’s value in selling Murphy as we need a right sided forward and Elanga is going nowhere unfortunately.

 

 

Edited by Whitley mag

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1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

There's absolutely no reason to sell Murphy, we're very unlikely to be able to replace his output in assists / goals. And it does matter that he is a positive presence in the dressing room, that is invaluable and if the ballance between players who really care and those just here to do a job is off in the dressing room it can have a massive impact on the pitch.

He's had a massive drop off

 

2024/25 Season Highlights (as of May 2025):

Goals: 8

Assists: 12

 

2025/26 Season Performance (Current):

Goals: 3

Assists: 1

 

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1 minute ago, TwoForJoy said:

He's had a massive drop off

 

2024/25 Season Highlights (as of May 2025):

Goals: 8

Assists: 12

 

2025/26 Season Performance (Current):

Goals: 3

Assists: 1

 


In fairness he is still putting in some fantastic crosses, it’s not his fault that we don’t currently have anyone that can profit from them

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Just now, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:


In fairness he is still putting in some fantastic crosses, it’s not his fault that we don’t currently have anyone that can profit from them

Not like we have a giant we could get in the box, who also happens to be an attack minded player.

 

If only we did... 😄

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1 hour ago, TwoForJoy said:

He's had a massive drop off

 

2024/25 Season Highlights (as of May 2025):

Goals: 8

Assists: 12

 

2025/26 Season Performance (Current):

Goals: 3

Assists: 1

 

 

He's still producing quality service, his crossing is possibly even better than it was last season, it's not his fault that other players are failing to take advantage of that.

 

He won't be on massive wages and we would get peanuts for him, unless we desperately need to free up a squad place I don't see the value in moving him on.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

He's still producing quality service, his crossing is possibly even better than it was last season, it's not his fault that other players are failing to take advantage of that.

 

He won't be on massive wages and we would get peanuts for him, unless we desperately need to free up a squad place I don't see the value in moving him on.

 

 

 

But you can’t have him and Elanga as our wide options next season. I’m

sorry but Murphy can put in 100 crosses for all I care - he is technically not at the level we need now - he’s had a good run - lived the dream - but time is up 

 

Plus I am sick of him backing out of 50/50s
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Murphy is huge. Could become a full back in the future and chip in with assists that way. No need to sell the players who actually like playing for the club. 

 

Whilst I agree with the last part, it's time to be completely ruthless.  If we can't find a buyer then fair enough but there's no way Jacob Murphy should be getting many minutes at all for us going forward, with the exception being if we miraculously end up with Conference/Europa games.

 

He's a top bloke, a model professional but he's not very good at football. Granted he had a great season in 24/25, but time to move on from the likes of him, Willock etc.

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7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I just don’t think Murph is technically good enough to be a fullback. His mistakes would kill you. 

He could be a wing back in Amorim's system

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5 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

 

Whilst I agree with the last part, it's time to be completely ruthless.  If we can't find a buyer then fair enough but there's no way Jacob Murphy should be getting many minutes at all for us going forward, with the exception being if we miraculously end up with Conference/Europa games.

 

He's a top bloke, a model professional but he's not very good at football. Granted he had a great season in 24/25, but time to move on from the likes of him, Willock etc.

 

I can just see him still playing at the top level 4-5 years from now. Think he'd be one we regret selling. 

 

Always available, low maintenance, why get rid? 

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1 minute ago, Holloway said:

those fantastic crosses he's still putting in, to dangerous areas with no cunt there

Begs the question why he’s putting in crosses when no one is there - does he not look up?

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7 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

 

Whilst I agree with the last part, it's time to be completely ruthless.  If we can't find a buyer then fair enough but there's no way Jacob Murphy should be getting many minutes at all for us going forward, with the exception being if we miraculously end up with Conference/Europa games.

 

He's a top bloke, a model professional but he's not very good at football. Granted he had a great season in 24/25, but time to move on from the likes of him, Willock etc.


I completely agree 

 

If the start of next season we still have Elanga AND Murphy as our sole RW options then the recruitment team hasn’t done their job 

 

Secondly if and when we replace Osula - that player becomes another RW/CF/LW option 

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2 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

 

I can just see him still playing at the top level 4-5 years from now. Think he'd be one we regret selling. 

 

Always available, low maintenance, why get rid? 

 

There's absolutely no way Jacob Murphy will be playing in the Premier League in 4/5 years. Not a chance.

 

Get rid because he's not good enough. I'm not advocating chasing him down Barrack Rd btw - I love the bloke and he's been a great servant. But he's very, very limited and just not all that good. He never has been if we're being honest.

 

I do take your point though about availability and he is likely cheap, so not saying he should be first out the door but if he's starting games for us in 2027 we're in bother.

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4 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

 

I can just see him still playing at the top level 4-5 years from now. Think he'd be one we regret selling. 

 

Always available, low maintenance, why get rid? 

Top level as in PL? I highly doubt it unless Norwich come up and he makes the nostalgic move there 

 

Remember how Longstaff was the solution to our midfield balance? He’s nowhere near the Leeds XI now - once you’ve extracted every ounce from players like these - they are only going one way, because in large parts they are limited 

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