Lush Vlad Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 36 minutes ago, gbandit said: I would take Delap. With the right coaching he’d become a very good target man, with some ability to play off the shoulder. See him as a Chris Wood type but with more pace and ability long term You couldn’t get a player less suited to Chelsea’s system. But that’s not to say he didn’t also look crap when he did play. Depending on the numbers, I’d have him here. Think he’d work well in our setup and if he can tone down the aggression just a touch. He’d be great leading the line and our press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Awful striker, just runs about charging into people getting booked. Scored the same amount of goals in two years as he has yellow cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Awful striker, just runs about charging into people getting booked. Scored the same amount of goals in two years as he has yellow cards. Brobbey 22 starts, 9 sub apps, 7 goals, 6 yellows. Could be the ideal replacement for your lot if someone is conned into thinking he's decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 20 minutes ago, TBG said: To be fair to OBL his planes did what he wanted them to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago There's a time and a place for a striker in the mould of both Brobbey and Delap. I'm not really convinced that's for us though at this moment? Hopefully we'll make strides towards being more efficient and progressive on the ball and in possession. We've got a boat load of work to do to reshape and restructure the team and IMHO Delap really isn't the answer or even part of a solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) You ever think we're moving into a new post Messi, Ronaldo, Guardiola, Klopp dark age of football tactics and football being entertaining? ie last season was the start rather than a one off? Edited 6 hours ago by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: You ever think we're moving into a new post Messi, Ronaldo, Guardiola, Klopp dark age of football tactics and football being entertaining? ie last season was the start rather than a one off? My guess is probably the start unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You ever think we're moving into a new post Messi, Ronaldo, Guardiola, Klopp dark age of football tactics and football being entertaining? ie last season was the start rather than a one off? Potentially. Though as long as there are players and teams good enough to overcome that we will get there. Lamine Yamal as a player, and PSG as a team are the only real examples at the moment. But hopefully there will be more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago I don’t think there is an EPL club dare to sign Delap after last seasons performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You ever think we're moving into a new post Messi, Ronaldo, Guardiola, Klopp dark age of football tactics and football being entertaining? ie last season was the start rather than a one off? Judging by the World Cup no. Has been quite refreshing. Mainly down to the refs not giving the slightest contact as a foul in most cases. Never like to criticise refs but the swing from the 90’s to now regarding their judgement of what’s a foul is ridiculous. I appreciate we had to or at least we’re likely to meet somewhere in the middle with world football with us importing so many foreign players but they really have been a scourge on our game in that sense sadly. Has made our international team far more savvy in recent tournaments but I do long for a more physical nonstop game. Feel what drew everyone to watching our football in the first place has been lost. Last season was dire for the lack of classic end to end games/wars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 18 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Brobbey 22 starts, 9 sub apps, 7 goals, 6 yellows. Could be the ideal replacement for your lot if someone is conned into thinking he's decent. Brobbey is a different beast to Delap IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, TeddySAFC said: Brobbey is a different beast to Delap IMO. How much you lot pay for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, TeddySAFC said: Brobbey is a different beast to Delap IMO. Delap's debut season was way better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: How much you lot pay for him? 17M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: You ever think we're moving into a new post Messi, Ronaldo, Guardiola, Klopp dark age of football tactics and football being entertaining? ie last season was the start rather than a one off? Think the PL and UEFA will look at this tournement as an example of how to change the laws and make it more entertaining. 3 major things: 1. Don't allow long elaborate setups for set-pieces, especially throw-ins. Ban long throw-ins if needed. 2. Stop all the blocking and tugging at corners. Maybe even stop blocking the goalkeeper. 3. Stop equating contact = penalty. And go with on pitch decision way more often. These games haven't been like PL games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, joeyt said: Big Willie is one of my three wishes if a genie appears There's dedicated apps for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Delap's debut season was way better. Delap played every game, Brobbey didn't get up to speed until a third of the way through, then had to adapt to English football with players he had never been around. Delap scored 12 with Ipswich, including 2 penalties, which granted is still a decent return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, TeddySAFC said: 17M Fucking hell, good business that even if he didn't work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Just now, The College Dropout said: Think the PL and UEFA will look at this tournement as an example of how to change the laws and make it more entertaining. 3 major things: 1. Don't allow long elaborate setups for set-pieces, especially throw-ins. Ban long throw-ins if needed. 2. Stop all the blocking and tugging at corners. Maybe even stop blocking the goalkeeper. 3. Stop equating contact = penalty. And go with on pitch decision way more often. These games haven't been like PL games. 'We've looked at the positive examples of the world cup and decided to implement them into the CL and PL!!!' Cutscene: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Fucking hell, good business that even if he didn't work out. I guess it's the model we had to go for, take a punt on players based on data and hope they work out. We would have went down without drastic change to the Championship squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Delap would probably do better in a hoof and rush team like Sunderland. I’m not sure he can play football though. I don’t mind having an overly physical donkey in the squad as they can be useful, but I wouldn’t pay much for them or have them in the first XI. Edited 6 hours ago by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) If Delap is the best they can come up with, for the fee it would cost as well, then Christ almighty. Seems more interested in giving fouls away when on the field than owt else. Hope it’s bollocks. Edited 6 hours ago by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 52 minutes ago, LFEE said: Judging by the World Cup no. Has been quite refreshing. Mainly down to the refs not giving the slightest contact as a foul in most cases. Never like to criticise refs but the swing from the 90’s to now regarding their judgement of what’s a foul is ridiculous. I appreciate we had to or at least we’re likely to meet somewhere in the middle with world football with us importing so many foreign players but they really have been a scourge on our game in that sense sadly. Has made our international team far more savvy in recent tournaments but I do long for a more physical nonstop game. Feel what drew everyone to watching our football in the first place has been lost. Last season was dire for the lack of classic end to end games/wars. I wouldn't expect anything based on international football, it's always very different due to a wider spectrum of quality and obviously the rules of how squads being built being different. I hope for everyone's sake you're right but I wouldn't expect it at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Delap looks big and brawny but the funny thing is that he is not a target man like many seem to think. Just pull up his Ipswich highlights and watch them back. He wants the ball played forward to him in behind and down the channels early and he gets it and runs directly and powerfully at players with the ball. He also benefits from crosses coming into the box earlier too. Chelsea don't do either of these things. Maresca is a Pep guy, and so they want to slow things down, and recycle the ball constantly, to try to pin teams back in their box, where there is then much less space to exploit. That style suits a striker with a bit more about them in general play, that can operate in tighter spaces against a defence that has had the time to retreat and sit in a low block. That is why Joao Pedro was much more effective. It's not too dissimilar to Ekitike showing up Isak at Liverpool under similar circumstances under Slot. Any move for Delap now will be frowned upon and the optics will look bad after the season he's had at Chelsea, even though he's much better suited to how we play. And so I don't think Newcastle will actually go for him. He's been linked with Everton a lot, and that would be a great option for him I think. Could see him do really well under Moyes. And then when he goes there and does well, just like we've seen other unheralded players like Garner and Dewsbury-Hall do, then there'll be frustration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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