NUFC Transfer Rumours

[SteV]

Some YouTube stuff in his thread on their board:

 

https://www.blackandwhitearmy.com/forums/index.php?/topic/54975-the-evan-mooney-thread/

[joeyt]

St Mirren just signed Gateshead's top scorer this morning

[Teslact]

1 hour ago, Nucasol said:

Son of Paul Mooney. North East weather legend.

Wincey must have some grandkids about the right age we could be scouting too.

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, Teslact said:

Wincey must have some grandkids about the right age we could be scouting too.

Looking forward to seeing Carol Malia’s brood being signed up soon.

[andycap]

3 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Schar one year deal if he’s happy to expect that, rest released. We don’t need them. 

Nah I'd keep lascelles 

[mouldy_uk]

My daily trip into this thread to see who we’ve signed

 

[Alberto2005]

If players like Lascelles and Krafth are staying it should be for emergencies only.

 

Schar should be backup CB next season imo.

[sushimonster85]

The time Howe takes in introducing new signings I'd say (unless we sign a RCB this Jan) there's a strong chance Schar at least starts next season as first choice in that position. 

[andycap]

20 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

If players like Lascelles and Krafth are staying it should be for emergencies only.

 

Schar should be backup CB next season imo.

More than likely tripps will be off so Krafth would be back up fullback. 

Lascelles if he wants to stay I'm sure we will keep him. Plus he could come in handy if we need a setpiece beast. 

[Alberto2005]

21 minutes ago, andycap said:

More than likely tripps will be off so Krafth would be back up fullback. 

Lascelles if he wants to stay I'm sure we will keep him. Plus he could come in handy if we need a setpiece beast. 

Then we need a better back up fullback, otherwise we're weaker than we are now.

 

I don't think Lascelles is good enough personally, and off the back of an ACL he might come back worse.

[nufc123]

Like the look of Khusanov. Strong and fast with a little bit Romero in him.

[Unbelievable]

47 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

If players like Lascelles and Krafth are staying it should be for emergencies only.

 

Schar should be backup CB next season imo.

I wouldn’t be too upset if Krafth and Lascelles are offered in year extensions, but I’d prefer us to be a bit more agressive and start to create pathways for young players (current or future)  to occupy these “break in case of emergency” squad roles. Since we’re after a first team RCB anyway it should be Schar moving down a place in the pecking order and then youngsters padding out the squad and getting game time when the situation allows.

[Ikon]

Not the finished article but I really want Dibling. Feels like us and him would be a match made in heaven. Plenty of game time for him, How Howe (not barking) has improved young players getting into England team and so on. 

[Deuce]

9 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Who we keeping out of this list ?

 

 

Schar and Krafth. Gillespie as training ground filler. Dubs if he wants to.

 

On the fence about Lascelles…he might want to move for playing time. Let Wilson and Ruddy walk.

[hakka]

9 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Who we keeping out of this list ?

 

 

 

Doesn't this feel a PSR nightmare? Several players over 30, some can stay but some need replacing. Problem is you cant easily buy what you need to replace it all at same time. And by time you do, other players become in need of urgent replacing.

 

One of the key answers is fantastic scouting for youngsters and bringing them in cheaper. You always have to be planning well ahead to make it pay off and work.

[Unbelievable]

3 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

Doesn't this feel a PSR nightmare? Several players over 30, some can stay but some need replacing. Problem is you cant easily buy what you need to replace it all at same time. And by time you do, other players become in need of urgent replacing.

 

One of the key answers is fantastic scouting for youngsters and bringing them in cheaper. You always have to be planning well ahead to make it pay off and work.

Aside from Schar none of those players are first team players, let alone critical to our future. Seems like good squad management letting most of their contracts expire and rejuvenating the squad.

[hakka]

6 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Aside from Schar none of those players are first team players, let alone critical to our future. Seems like good squad management letting most of their contracts expire and rejuvenating the squad.

 

But you cant eplace them at same time and strength existing weak positions and depth. I know some of it overlaps, but PSR forces you to carry more aging, and my point is when players like Schar are worth letting go then someone else will also need replacing. 

[Unbelievable]

46 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

But you cant eplace them at same time and strength existing weak positions and depth. I know some of it overlaps, but PSR forces you to carry more aging, and my point is when players like Schar are worth letting go then someone else will also need replacing. 

I don’t understand your point I’m afraid. I’d say Lascelles’ role (playing, not leadership) in the squad should be taken by someone like Alex Murphy, and Krafth’s by someone like Leo Sahar, with Schar, Kelly and Burn deputising as reserve center backs. We need to get promising young players in, develop them and have them in and around the squad to eventually become first team players or sold for decent fees. That makes more sense from a PSR perspective than holding on to aging fringe players too long. I’d hazard a guess that the likes of Lascelles and Krafth command higher wages than out entire U21 team combined.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 18:25 by Unbelievable

[KingArthur]

Schär and Krafth are easy options to keep from there. One year deal.

[hakka]

4 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

I don’t understand your point I’m afraid. I’d say Lascelles’ role (playing, not leadership) in the squad should be taken by someone like Alex Murphy, and Krafth’s by someone like Leo Sahar, with Schar, Kelly and Burn deputising as reserve center backs. We need to get promising young players in, develop them and have them in and around the squad to eventually become first team players or sold for decent fees. That makes more sense from a PSR perspective than holding on to aging fringe players too long. I’d hazard a guess that the likes of Lascelles and Krafth command higher wages than out entire U21 team combined.

 

 

 

 

I am not well today. Rough as rats. So I could be making sense in my head, but not conveying it well

 

I guess I am trying to say I feel PSR is so restricting that it hinders your ability to realistically and fairly keep upgrading your squad at a rate it needs, unless you can buy cheaper and younger to mitigate your budget. 

 

I'm done man - I'm a mess today.

[Unbelievable]

4 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

I am not well today. Rough as rats. So I could be making sense in my head, but not conveying it well

 

I guess I am trying to say I feel PSR is so restricting that it hinders your ability to realistically and fairly keep upgrading your squad at a rate it needs, unless you can buy cheaper and younger to mitigate your budget. 

 

I'm done man - I'm a mess today.

On that I think we agree. I just don’t think the answer to PSR is to hold on to expensive, old fringe players, but much rather to ensure a conveyor belt of talent coming from the academy. Obviously it is early doors for our academy producing PL level talent on a regular basis, but we should start thinking and acting this way, not least to be seen by prospective young players as a club where there is a pathway from the academy to the first team.

[WilliamPS]

7 minutes ago, KingArthur said:

Schär and Krafth are easy options to keep from there. One year deal.

If you offer this pair one year you got to accept they will leave. Schar is a starting CB for a team currently 5th, he’s 33, not 43. Krafth is only 30 and has proved he can handle himself in the PL.

Would they sign one year deals?

 

Schar will know he hasn’t many years left and will want 2 to stay, he could get 3 lower down the PL or abroad I’d guess. Krafth at 30 will be able to get a 3 or 4 year deal elsewhere.

 

If you want players to stay you also have to consider what they’d accept and what would be available to them elsewhere.

 

Those others on the list are probably more likely to accept one year, as they have basically no bargaining power 

[Keegans Export]

12 minutes ago, hakka said:

 

I am not well today. Rough as rats. So I could be making sense in my head, but not conveying it well

 

I guess I am trying to say I feel PSR is so restricting that it hinders your ability to realistically and fairly keep upgrading your squad at a rate it needs, unless you can buy cheaper and younger to mitigate your budget. 

 

I'm done man - I'm a mess today.

You're absolutely right in fairness.

 

In a non-PSR world, we could allow those players to leave the club and replace them with younger, better players. That wouldn't necessarily involve spending hundreds of millions, but making deals such as that CB playing in France we've been linked with.

[hakka]

8 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

On that I think we agree. I just don’t think the answer to PSR is to hold on to expensive, old fringe players, but much rather to ensure a conveyor belt of talent coming from the academy. Obviously it is early doors for our academy producing PL level talent on a regular basis, but we should start thinking and acting this way, not least to be seen by prospective young players as a club where there is a pathway from the academy to the first team.

 

Then we're on same page. I fully agree academy and youth through put with good forward planning will pay dividends. It did with Hall and Tino, if we do that for other positions quickly and cheaply then I feel that's the best way to not need to hold on to aging players too.

[andycap]

Have we actually got any money to spend? Or is it time for eddie and Jason to crack open the old dufflebag with the ski masks and sawn of shotgun. 😂