NUFC Transfer Rumours

[BennyBlanco]

Being honest here, I’m gunna start wetting the bed somewhat. Wouldn’t be surprised if we just end up with Elanga and go into this season light as fuck. We’ll hear the usual noises about a “Saudi tax” and “PSR” restraints but really this has come down to glacial recruiting and unambitious targets. There’s also an element of us not paying the going rate. £40m for a young, proven, talented keeper like Trafford ain’t completely stupid money. He’s at the age where he could be between the sticks for the next 8-9 years at top level. Very short sighted to let this one go.

 

As for the rest of the team that needs strengthening - the panic might just set in when Schar and Burn start collecting their pensions. But I don’t hold out much hope.

[Andy84]

2 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Being honest here, I’m gunna start wetting the bed somewhat. Wouldn’t be surprised if we just end up with Elanga and go into this season light as fuck. We’ll hear the usual noises about a “Saudi tax” and “PSR” restraints but really this has come down to glacial recruiting and unambitious targets. There’s also an element of us not paying the going rate. £40m for a young, proven, talented keeper like Trafford ain’t completely stupid money. He’s at the age where he could be between the sticks for the next 8-9 years at top level. Very short sighted to let this one go.

 

As for the rest of the team that needs strengthening - the panic might just set in when Schar and Burn start collecting their pensions. But I don’t hold out much hope.

The targets are ambitious

[The Prophet]

[andyc35i]

14 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Personally think the fault lies more with Eddie being to little flexible about the players he wants in.

I dont want us to overpay for the players he has set his sights on. 

How do you really know that Eddie is being inflexible? I really don’t understand this constant view that Eddie only wants to buy a select few players and nobody else. He wants players that will improve us, are talented, willing to learn and open to his style of coaching. That makes the pool smaller, but we don’t know how long that list is 

[The Prophet]

To go back to a point made earlier in the window, we do our best work "buying the dip".

[Displayname]

3 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

How do you really know that Eddie is being inflexible? I really don’t understand this constant view that Eddie only wants to buy a select few players and nobody else. He wants players that will improve us, are talented, willing to learn and open to his style of coaching. That makes the pool smaller, but we don’t know how long that list is 

Well cant say im sure its Eddie, but I think he is the one who has the final say. 

The pool of players who could improve our squad is huge.

 

But we are still pretty much only going after players we have been linked with before. Maybe our scouting network sucks.

[Mattoon]

PSR doing its job this summer, preventing us from breaking through, ultimately now we're trying to shop from the top shelf we still don't quite have the pull of Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, even Man Utd and Spurs and we're not in the position to throw money at the problem to bridge the gap like Man City and Chelsea were able to do. For now we have to continue to behave ourselves and know our place in the pecking order. It's going to be a slow building process financially or the rules are going to have to change for us to compete, until such a time, we can't fiscally compete.

 

Having said all that, I am confident we will add more players to the team before the season starts, no way we go into 4 comps this light.

[Nine]

7 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

To go back to a point made earlier in the window, we do our best work "buying the dip".

This is exactly it, our opportunistic approach has been successful so far. We seem to have very clear valuations of players as well and don’t seem to be interested in paying much further than that which is fair enough, people talk about ‘Saudi tax’ but it’s absolutely a thing. If we let ourselves get bent over for any deal then everyone will be trying it on with us.. see Guehi last summer. 

[Marquee Moon]

The mad thing about our transfer strategy is we just keep going back for the same players every window and seeing the asking price double every time.

 

Transfer fees only move in 1 direction. Anyone we’re quibbling over the price for now will be even more expensive when we inevitably go back for them next summer.

[Menace]

Its still early but I'm a bit underwhelmed so far, like others have said its literally the same targets as last year  So Mitchell got paid for absolutely fuck all then?

[David Edgar]

Rename this thread as the other clubs transfer rumours.

[TRon]

20 minutes ago, andyc35i said:

How do you really know that Eddie is being inflexible? I really don’t understand this constant view that Eddie only wants to buy a select few players and nobody else. He wants players that will improve us, are talented, willing to learn and open to his style of coaching. That makes the pool smaller, but we don’t know how long that list is 

 

 

If that pool is players that the cartel clubs are also chasing, then we are going to keep seeing transfer windows like this one. We are not in a position to compete with them because of PSR. We are sick of hearing it, but there's no way round it unless we want to ignore it then deal with it in a year's time. 

[BennyBlanco]

46 minutes ago, Andy84 said:

The targets are ambitious

 

Tbf I probably used the wrong word there. Unimaginative would fit better.

[54]

2 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

 

Tbf I probably used the wrong word there. Unimaginative would fit better.

Does it matter if they're unimaginative if they improve us? Which every player we've been linked with undoubtedly would.

[DevonGeordie]

53 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

Being honest here, I’m gunna start wetting the bed somewhat. Wouldn’t be surprised if we just end up with Elanga and go into this season light as fuck. We’ll hear the usual noises about a “Saudi tax” and “PSR” restraints but really this has come down to glacial recruiting and unambitious targets. There’s also an element of us not paying the going rate. £40m for a young, proven, talented keeper like Trafford ain’t completely stupid money. He’s at the age where he could be between the sticks for the next 8-9 years at top level. Very short sighted to let this one go.

 

As for the rest of the team that needs strengthening - the panic might just set in when Schar and Burn start collecting their pensions. But I don’t hold out much hope.

I agree mate.

I’d rather see us pay a bit more and bring in Elanga, a centre-half and a striker than going into the season light and have a repeat of two years ago.

[BennyBlanco]

6 minutes ago, 54 said:

Does it matter if they're unimaginative if they improve us? Which every player we've been linked with undoubtedly would.

 

Id say yes it matters when most targets have a proven track record and therefore a large fee, too much competition and the end result is we don’t end up landing them and go into the new season too light.

[andycap]

More than likely Mitchell would've giving howe alternatives for the positions we wanted to strengthen.

but it looks like they weren't considered, the way Mitchell left us so soon. 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said:

 

Id say yes it matters when most targets have a proven track record and therefore a large fee, too much competition and the end result is we don’t end up landing them and go into the new season too light.

 

 

It has become a pattern over the last few windows. The other side of it is we don't get many transfers wrong, but then we don't really have a squad capable of dealing with a full season as a result usually. 

[gdm]

What a come down this week has been from the early Ekitike news to Liverpool wanting Isak then going for Ekitike, then Mbeumo going to Man Utd meaning Wissa signing although underwhelming is now unlikely to Howe’s frustrated comments and finally to probably losing out on Trafford the one signing that looked a certainty. The life of a Newcastle fan

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

It has become a pattern over the last few windows. The other side of it is we don't get many transfers wrong, but then we don't really have a squad capable of dealing with a full season as a result usually. 

I really dont mind us not overpaying for the players we are after.

We should get a couple of Kelly like transfers though just to fill up the squad.

[BennyBlanco]

3 minutes ago, Displayname said:

I really dont mind us not overpaying for the players we are after.

We should get a couple of Kelly like transfers though just to fill up the squad.

 

This. Im surprised we weren’t all over the free agent market. There were some great little players in it this year. David and Gomes would have brought the squad on massively.

[gdm]

Just now, BennyBlanco said:

 

This. Im surprised we weren’t all over the free agent market. There were some great little players in it this year. David and Gomes would have brought the squad on massively.

David didn’t want to come here IIRC

[beardsleymagic]

I know there will be more to it than what anyone realises, but we really need to move a bit quicker than we have been.

Set a maximum price... Offer what we hope to get them for.. If the first bid is knocked back go in quickly with a better offer but within the maximum limit.

 

It's not rocket science but we seem to drag it out more than most other teams seem to.

 

Like I said I know there will be more factors involved but surely we can have a system in place to make it run much more smoothly than it obviously has been.

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, beardsleymagic said:

I know there will be more to it than what anyone realises, but we really need to move a bit quicker than we have been.

Set a maximum price... Offer what we hope to get them for.. If the first bid is knocked back go in quickly with a better offer but within the maximum limit.

 

It's not rocket science but we seem to drag it out more than most other teams seem to.

 

Like I said I know there will be more factors involved but surely we can have a system in place to make it run much more smoothly than it obviously has been.

it probably takes the other club at least a couple of days to official turn down the offer. The pace isn’t always down to us I’d imagine. 

[BennyBlanco]

6 minutes ago, gdm said:

it probably takes the other club at least a couple of days to official turn down the offer. The pace isn’t always down to us I’d imagine. 

 

True but it’s never been as slow as it is now. Absolutely zero sense of urgency.