Fak Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, KaKa said: Another day another set of repetitive posts from the day before about how we aren't going to get the signings we need in. So fun. And we're all so glad to you have you here reminding us daily about how more switched on and clued up you are about it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernmag Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, KaKa said: Another day another set of repetitive posts from the day before about how we aren't going to get the signings we need in. So fun. Do you think the evidence of this window so far (and previous ones) suggests we're going to sign the players we need? If so I admire the optimism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, southernmag said: I think it's overly simplistic to explain our poor window away by blaming it on the cartel. There are reasons to suspect we're not operating well in and of ourselves. Obviously I agree the cartel are shafting us to a decent degree. I'm not blaming the cartel, as I've repeated several times in the past everyone is looking at the same profile of player (young and can improve but make an impact on the first team) the problem with that is it's a tiny pool of players that fit that criteria. For us it's an absolute necessity, we need players with resale value because we have one of the oldest squads in the league and we have to be able to decide who we sell and when. I'm not going to dismiss your posts or flame you, your entitled to your opinion but I do believe it's very much bigger picture stuff. What would you have done differently out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, nufc123 said: Agree, Im just starting to worry a little bit with the ST quality we will get. Not a lot of good options out there. I won’t mention his name but he must be close on the ‘available’ ST list now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 1 minute ago, southernmag said: Do you think the evidence of this window so far (and previous ones) suggests we're going to sign the players we need? If so I admire the optimism. It suggests we are putting offers in for big money. We’ll get players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Aside from the big six there hasn’t been a whole host of transfers has there? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Agree, Im just starting to worry a little bit with the ST quality we will get. Not a lot of good options out there. Plenty about in the major European leagues if we're willing to take a leap of faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 It's frustrating and a little concerning how we've been mugged off so far, but it's daft to be too critical with weeks to go yet and not knowing what we have to work with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 I don’t think we lose out all our targets just because the cartel clubs are in. Our willingness of not paying the market price / wages also played a big part imo. you may say the club is right to not paying over the odd - only if we are able to move on and bring in other players in accordance to our back up plans. If we are unable to do so, or just have some panic buys that does not fit Howe’s needs, then this windows’ strategy is a complete failure. 40 days to go. I am confident that Nickson has compiled a long long list for the management to choose. It’s up to them to act timely and wisely now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: I'm not blaming the cartel, as I've repeated several times in the past everyone is looking at the same profile of player (young and can improve but make an impact on the first team) the problem with that is it's a tiny pool of players that fit that criteria. For us it's an absolute necessity, we need players with resale value because we have one of the oldest squads in the league and we have to be able to decide who we sell and when. I'm not going to dismiss your posts or flame you, your entitled to your opinion but I do believe it's very much bigger picture stuff. What would you have done differently out of interest? Excluding our keepers we dont really have that old squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernmag Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I'm not blaming the cartel, as I've repeated several times in the past everyone is looking at the same profile of player (young and can improve but make an impact on the first team) the problem with that is it's a tiny pool of players that fit that criteria. For us it's an absolute necessity, we need players with resale value because we have one of the oldest squads in the league and we have to be able to decide who we sell and when. I'm not going to dismiss your posts or flame you, your entitled to your opinion but I do believe it's very much bigger picture stuff. What would you have done differently out of interest? That's very reasonable. In my opinion we need to either be quick and decisive with 'cartel targets', or go for ones they might not so readily go for. I understand and probably support the first approach, but you HAVE to be fast and pay what's required early on, or you'll miss out to the cartel. I think our club has been made to look stupid this summer in this way, and last. I do have hope and some cautious optimism for the rest of this window, I'm just frustrated by what I'm seeing. I imagine Eddie is too, but feeling frustrated doesn't sign players. We need to pull finger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 29 minutes ago, gdm said: It is slow but if delap or Pedro chose us and signed it wouldn’t be as big an issue. The problem is 4 or 5 targets have either decided to go elsewhere or the likes of Liverpool & Man Utd have used they’d financial muscle. Trafford by all accounts was done then Burnley moved the goal posts. It’s been a really unfortunate summer but as someone on here said it’s more difficult when your targets are wanted by the elite clubs And if I won the lottery last week I wouldn’t be up this scaffolding in the pissing down rain. “If” is doing too much heavy lifting there. We couldn’t convince two young players in a World Cup year that they would benefit from more minutes and playing under Howe for a team with (supposedly) massive ambitions. They chose Chelsea, being one of a number of players in that position and the money. We ain’t selling ourselves well enough offering a competitive package. That’s a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 4 minutes ago, southernmag said: Do you think the evidence of this window so far (and previous ones) suggests we're going to sign the players we need? If so I admire the optimism. Yes, we've been actively pursuing numerous players and clearly have money to spend. Outside of the main clubs in the Prem it's been mostly quiet still for the most part, as things really haven't got moving yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, southernmag said: That's very reasonable. In my opinion we need to either be quick and decisive with 'cartel targets', or go for ones they might not so readily go for. I understand and probably support the first approach, but you HAVE to be fast and pay what's required early on, or you'll miss out to the cartel. I think our club has been made to look stupid this summer in this way, and last. I do have hope and some cautious optimism for the rest of this window, I'm just frustrated by what I'm seeing. I imagine Eddie is too, but feeling frustrated doesn't sign players. We need to pull finger. Don’t blame you for being frustrated and concerned at all, man. I’m sure most of us are. Apologies for being a bit harsh earlier. Edited July 19, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Plenty about in the major European leagues if we're willing to take a leap of faith. In the big leagues, are there plenty with the quality we need? Serie A almost nothing, La liga not many, Ligue 1 got Kalimuendo, Bundes ones are going to Liverpool and Bayern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, southernmag said: Here's another unpopular opinion - "there are very few players out there that can improve us" is a weak cover for "our list of targets is unoriginal/too restrictive and we take too long to move for them anyway". Brother, what are you on about? That’s not an “unpopular opinion,” it’s just lazy criticism dressed up as insight. The idea that “there are very few players who can improve us” isn’t some convenient excuse it’s the literal reality of trying to strengthen a top-level squad. When you're operating at the sharp end, marginal gains cost serious money and require precision ffs. Calling the shortlist “unoriginal” completely misses the point too. Every major club in the world is after the same handful of elite talents. There’s no secret wonderlist no one else knows about. If a player really is good enough to improve a top side, you can bet ten other clubs are sniffing around too. With that, it means players and clubs have the time and leverage to sit back, wait and sound out other propositions. Sorry to sound patronizing but that’s just how it is, not a “weak cover.” Edited July 19, 2025 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: And if I won the lottery last week I wouldn’t be up this scaffolding in the pissing down rain. “If” is doing too much heavy lifting there. We couldn’t convince two young players in a World Cup year that they would benefit from more minutes and playing under Howe for a team with (supposedly) massive ambitions. They chose Chelsea, being one of a number of players in that position and the money. We ain’t selling ourselves well enough offering a competitive package. That’s a problem. It's not easy my man, did you notice how the second we get involved it gets leaked and the cartel come swooping in? Offering more money than we can? It's just one of the those things, we have to let them finishing gorging themselves before we get a look in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 11 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Aside from the big six there hasn’t been a whole host of transfers has there? Unfortunately its them we are competing with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: And if I won the lottery last week I wouldn’t be up this scaffolding in the pissing down rain. “If” is doing too much heavy lifting there. We couldn’t convince two young players in a World Cup year that they would benefit from more minutes and playing under Howe for a team with (supposedly) massive ambitions. They chose Chelsea, being one of a number of players in that position and the money. We ain’t selling ourselves well enough offering a competitive package. That’s a problem. Chelsea can blow us out the water in what they can offer a player whether it’s a World Cup year or not. Might not mean much to opposition fans but delap & pedro have already won the Club World Cup within weeks of going there. Them choosing Chelsea is a reflection on them and not us as a club. Wether you like it or not we are going by the book on PSR we don’t have loopholes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernmag Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 1 minute ago, McCormick said: Brother, what are you on about? That’s not an “unpopular opinion,” it’s just lazy criticism dressed up as insight. The idea that “there are very few players who can improve us” isn’t some convenient excuse it’s the literal reality of trying to strengthen a top-level squad. When you're operating at the sharp end, marginal gains cost serious money and require precision ffs. Calling the shortlist “unoriginal” completely misses the point too. Every major club in the world is after the same handful of elite talents. There’s no secret wonderlist no one else knows about. If a player really is good enough to improve a top side, you can bet ten other clubs are sniffing around too. With that, it means players and clubs have the time and leverage to sit back, wait and sound out other propositions. Sorry to sound patronizing but that’s just how it is, not a “weak cover.” I'll consider myself told. I agree with a fair bit of that. Maybe I should have said, "CAN be a weak cover for". Might have been less inflammatory. I just think the club are saying the right things in interviews etc but then we're really not backing that up with action, in regards to transfers primarily. I'm not arguing it's not hard, but I'm arguing we're not doing things as well as we could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernmag Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 7 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Don’t blame you for being frustrated and concerned at all, man. I’m sure most of us are. Apologies for being a bit harsh earlier. No problem. I say the odd daft thing myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 16 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Agree, Im just starting to worry a little bit with the ST quality we will get. Not a lot of good options out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 5 minutes ago, McCormick said: Brother, what are you on about? That’s not an “unpopular opinion,” it’s just lazy criticism dressed up as insight. The idea that “there are very few players who can improve us” isn’t some convenient excuse it’s the literal reality of trying to strengthen a top-level squad. When you're operating at the sharp end, marginal gains cost serious money and require precision ffs. Calling the shortlist “unoriginal” completely misses the point too. Every major club in the world is after the same handful of elite talents. There’s no secret wonderlist no one else knows about. If a player really is good enough to improve a top side, you can bet ten other clubs are sniffing around too. With that, it means players and clubs have the time and leverage to sit back, wait and sound out other propositions. Sorry to sound patronizing but that’s just how it is, not a “weak cover.” But we are far from having a top level squad. Top level first XI sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, Geordie Magpie said: Maybe if you just sit down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 (edited) Well, at least we’re failing to buy Ekitike rather than not quite getting choudhury over the line. It’s all progress lads. Edited July 19, 2025 by Mahoneys Tache Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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