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58 minutes ago, oldtype said:

For what it’s worth, I don’t any club no matter how good can prepare adequately for being rejected by their first five striker targets, effectively within a single month.

Save your typing. I've said a few times (well, defo once but I think more times) that had the board had known we were after either Delap, Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko, the vast majority would have thought we'd get at least one.

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Just now, madras said:

Save your typing. I've said a few times (well, defo once but I think more times) that had the board had known we were after either Delap, Pedro, Ekitike, Sesko, the vast majority would have thought we'd get at least one.

Even if we had gotten Cunha or Mbeumo who are not strikers but capable of playing up front more than Gordon, they may have gone with it for now

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16 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:


We're trying to buy an Isak replacement. 


We signed Isak for half what he’s currently worth, same with most of our signings. Calculated gambles that Howe can maximise just aren’t on the menu these days.

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5 minutes ago, Ellis H said:


We signed Isak for half what he’s currently worth, same with most of our signings. Calculated gambles that Howe can maximise just aren’t on the menu these days.


Isak signed for 63 million you madhead. 3 years ago. Not exactly the bargain basement. Isak was in the exact same pool we're looking at now. He was courted for years.

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9 hours ago, GeordieDazzler said:


Agents will always be in the business of getting the best deal for their client and themselves and in the players we’ve missed out on the financial packages we’re likely more appealing with the big 6 club. 

Agent-club relationship is on a spectrum where they can represent the club just as much as they do players which is why you see certain clubs only working with certain agents.  Under Shepherd, Paul Stratford worked very closely with the club for example. 

 

I'm not saying we have to be in bed with agents like other clubs but we should be in a position where deals are agreed with the player and where we can trust it will go through before we even approach their club in most cases. 

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1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:


Isak signed for 63 million you madhead. 3 years ago. Not exactly the bargain basement. Isak was in the exact same pool we're looking at now. He was courted for years.


He signed for us after we’d finished 11th and he’d had a poor season. If he was so highly courted he’d have been nowhere near us, like most of our targets this summer despite us being in a far, far better position. We evidently can’t afford to buy or attract strikers in the elite pool we’re looking at so what do we do?

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When he signed, Isak was the most expensive signing ever (70M euros) by a non Sky 6 club. Three years later, he still is. Next highest is Onana to Villa for 60M euros. 76 other players plus Isak have gone for higher fees than Onana. Basically every Sky 6 club could field an entire 11 of more expensive players than every club from 7th downwards. 

 

For his first two seasons, Isak's output was little different to Callum Wilson's in the same team. Isak is now the player we developed, not the player we were somehow lucky enough to buy and be deigned with his presence.

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33 minutes ago, Ellis H said:


He signed for us after we’d finished 11th and he’d had a poor season. If he was so highly courted he’d have been nowhere near us, like most of our targets this summer despite us being in a far, far better position. We evidently can’t afford to buy or attract strikers in the elite pool we’re looking at so what do we do?

  

Sesko went for 70m, Joao Pedro went for 60m and Delap went for 30m. Ekitike the biggest of our targets at 80m. All comparable to when we bought Isak at 63m. You said Isak was a calculated gamble, but he was big money. And complained we're fishing in the most expensive river for a new striker. Which we did with Isak. Arsenal had been after him for ages, we were lucky we were able to agree the fee we did and have no other club coming in for him at the same time. 

 

I just don't see how you can spin this as a stick to beat Howe with. How Howe's supposedly ripped up a list of players, suggestively cheaper players, for his own list of expensive players whilst pleading poverty. And hold Isak up as some example of being savvier with cash. When it's clearly ludicrous to do so. We're trying to sign his replacement, of course we arent going to buy some unknown who's had a good season is some other league to replace him, that'd be mental.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Stottie said:

When he signed, Isak was the most expensive signing ever (70M euros) by a non Sky 6 club. Three years later, he still is. Next highest is Onana to Villa for 60M euros. 76 other players plus Isak have gone for higher fees than Onana. Basically every Sky 6 club could field an entire 11 of more expensive players than every club from 7th downwards. 

 

For his first two seasons, Isak's output was little different to Callum Wilson's in the same team. Isak is now the player we developed, not the player we were somehow lucky enough to buy and be deigned with his presence.

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76 players bought by English clubs (the sly 6) for more than Isak? Is that right?

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So are we now in the final phase whereas we are left with a list of players that we wouldn't touch with a bargepole ordinarily and also those who we think aren't good enough for NUFC. 

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4 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

  

Sesko went for 70m, Joao Pedro went for 60m and Delap went for 30m. Ekitike the biggest of our targets at 80m. All comparable to when we bought Isak at 63m. You said Isak was a calculated gamble, but he was big money. And complained we're fishing in the most expensive river for a new striker. Which we did with Isak. Arsenal had been after him for ages, we were lucky we were able to agree the fee we did and have no other club coming in for him at the same time. 

 

I just don't see how you can spin this as a stick to beat Howe with. How Howe's supposedly ripped up a list of players, suggestively cheaper players, for his own list of expensive players whilst pleading poverty. And hold Isak up as some example of being savvier with cash. When it's clearly ludicrous to do so. We're trying to sign his replacement, of course we arent going to buy some unknown who's had a good season is some other league to replace him, that'd be mental.

 

 

 


 

The point I’m making (however badly) is that we’re struggling massively to acquire the elite players we’re targeting so we should maybe focus on what got us where we are, as it was very clearly working. Every big name signing we’ve made (bar maybe Botman due to injuries) has improved as a player and their value has risen a lot. We haven’t needed to sign the finished article because our scouting and negotiating was top notch, finding attainable near-future stars we could improve and push on massively with. Signing the player before they become *that* player was our biggest strength in the top 6 dominant, PSR/FFP world.

 

Something has unquestionably changed in that regard in the last 12 or so months. We’ve come into this window with a small list of long term, hard to acquire targets and have hyper focused on them for many weeks, mostly one at a time. The Guehi saga last summer has foreshadowed this summer perfectly despite Howe saying we don’t want to repeat it. Mitchell’s job was described as “90% recruitment” so I do doubt that he (or the previously exceptional scouts) hadn’t managed to find a single credible first team target in over a year of employment. Just about every player we’ve been seriously linked to this summer had been mentioned before he joined and if not they’re very well known and required minimal scouting. Mainly targeting proven Premier League players from unwilling sellers in this PSR driven world is a dangerous tactic. I obviously get the idea of buying the best possible players but if you’ve got £50 to buy food for a month you shouldn’t go to Harrods. 

 

A great post on here by a Bournemouth fan described Howe as being “a control freak and pretty much directly oversaw all aspects of the club”. Everything since his meeting with the Chairman after the Everton game suggests to me we’re at that stage now, rightly or wrongly.

 

Regardless of any of this extreme conjecture, I love him and I’ll back him till the very end.

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9 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Head: not remotely realistic.

Heart: bring him hyeeeem

 

 

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Jeez at this rate we could get both Sorloth and Alvarez based on these rumours? Fucking trade Isak to Simeone then!

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19 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Head: not remotely realistic.

Heart: bring him hyeeeem

 

 

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Isak and Alvarez swap; Atletico throw in Gallagher as the balance. We flog Willock to Fulham to get some additional bunce in for Wissa.

 

Job done.

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Oh yeah? I wonder why? 🤔 

 

Change that 3 to a 4 and perhaps theyd accept?

 

I'd prefer him to Wissa tbh.

 

Wilson replacement but can certainly get better and has age on his side.

 

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27 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Head: not remotely realistic.

Heart: bring him hyeeeem

 

 

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This guy isn't really a Simeone player man. Never understood it really.

 

I imagine a Diego Costa as a prototypical Simeone striker.

 

Maybe Liverpool will go for him, as they were considering him as well at some point.

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Whoever runs that "NUFC Transfer Room" Twitter feed is a complete and total freak. Absolutely unhinged self butthole licking going on there. 

 

Not seen anything like it 😂 

 

 

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