aussiemag Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Can probably sell Barnes for 30 mill at the end of the season and make a bit of a PSR profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Every top side we want to close in on as a winger that's just pure talent, where if they're not scoring/assisting, they will creating all sorts from their general play and just overall quality. Mbuemo I believe would've been that for us, as even at a shite Man Utd, he's looked great. With Barnes and Murphy both approaching next summer in "New deals or sold" terriority, it's the chance for us to do one or both. We HAVE to get a different winger profile, can't be going even further in hard runners as in theory Gordon / Elanga are the peak of them for us with age on their side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Will say with Murphy, I believe he's more than capable of being a low cost back up RB in short term and we give him a new deal based on that. Tino main guy at RB and Murphy back up RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 I'm sure everyone is out for Barnes after the last few games, but I would love to see the list of players who would come here probably as the second choice left winger and be within our budget. I imagine it's not a list that will excite most people here. Leao and Savinho were mentioned on the page before - both would likely command £70m+ transfer fees and potentially double the wages of Barnes. So unless you are prioritising LW as our marquee signing next summer (which we obviously should not given other needs) then they are non starters. Not saying selling Barnes next summer for PSR reasons is not the right move - it's just I think the upgrade we'll get on him is way less than people would like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 This is where we need to get away from thinking it has to be a £60m+ signing. The scouts surely can surely find wingers of a profile that's different and cost less across Europe. We can't keep dropping £40m+ on players. This summer was a desperation move and that's what we did, but we 100% can't be doing that next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sibierski said: This is where we need to get away from thinking it has to be a £60m+ signing. The scouts surely can surely find wingers of a profile that's different and cost less across Europe. We can't keep dropping £40m+ on players. This summer was a desperation move and that's what we did, but we 100% can't be doing that next summer. I think the problem we have is the level we've reached. If you are a Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth you buy smart, develop the player and in 2-3 years you might have an absolute gem on your hands. The problem is that in years one (and sometimes) two) of that cycle there can be a bit of pain. They have games where they make mistakes and/or are ineffective. And that's part of the reason why a club like Brighton (who are basically the model for this) are not playing European football this season. Indeed, they've never made it to the Champions League, which we've done twice in three seasons. I am very sure our scouts are aware of these players - the question is are we/Howe/the club happy to accept that signing some of these players might lead to some short term regression. I expect the answer will continue to be 'No'. Edited September 19, 2025 by stozo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 When you have 9 outfield players of quality/proven ability, you can have 2 that are a bit inconsistent in first year as they develop up. We're still at a level also IMO where we can take the gamble on players as we're not expected to be in UCL every season and challenging for all the honours. If we can't sign those players whilst we're top of the level below cartel sides, then we're never going to sign those players and we're shopping in that no-mans land of a market that we experienced this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: Ciaran Clarke says hi. Houghton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: Will say with Murphy, I believe he's more than capable of being a low cost back up RB in short term and we give him a new deal based on that. Tino main guy at RB and Murphy back up RB. Murphy can't defend as a FB. Not now anyway. 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: Every top side we want to close in on as a winger that's just pure talent, where if they're not scoring/assisting, they will creating all sorts from their general play and just overall quality. Mbuemo I believe would've been that for us, as even at a shite Man Utd, he's looked great. With Barnes and Murphy both approaching next summer in "New deals or sold" terriority, it's the chance for us to do one or both. We HAVE to get a different winger profile, can't be going even further in hard runners as in theory Gordon / Elanga are the peak of them for us with age on their side. We don't have too. We haven't thus far having signed 3 wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: When you have 9 outfield players of quality/proven ability, you can have 2 that are a bit inconsistent in first year as they develop up. We're still at a level also IMO where we can take the gamble on players as we're not expected to be in UCL every season and challenging for all the honours. If we can't sign those players whilst we're top of the level below cartel sides, then we're never going to sign those players and we're shopping in that no-mans land of a market that we experienced this summer. You can add them as squad players but not as 1st team players. There's also no guarantee that these players will eventually come good. People talk about Brentford, Brighton and other teams; all we concentrate on are the players that come good but there are a lot that fall by the way side (Google the most expensive arrivals for both teams). People make it sound so easy to buy a young cheap player; it's a very difficult thing to do. Reminds me of Ricky Gervais asking Bowie to "just knock off another Life on Mars" . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 2 hours ago, stozo said: I think the problem we have is the level we've reached. If you are a Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth you buy smart, develop the player and in 2-3 years you might have an absolute gem on your hands. The problem is that in years one (and sometimes) two) of that cycle there can be a bit of pain. They have games where they make mistakes and/or are ineffective. And that's part of the reason why a club like Brighton (who are basically the model for this) are not playing European football this season. Indeed, they've never made it to the Champions League, which we've done twice in three seasons. I am very sure our scouts are aware of these players - the question is are we/Howe/the club happy to accept that signing some of these players might lead to some short term regression. I expect the answer will continue to be 'No'. I’d also add on that both Brentford and Brighton are now facing challenges buying players. The fees they are being quoted has went up, and clubs are wanting bigger sell on clauses because they know know they will sell that player in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 2 hours ago, Sibierski said: Will say with Murphy, I believe he's more than capable of being a low cost back up RB in short term and we give him a new deal based on that. Tino main guy at RB and Murphy back up RB. There was a moment in the game last night where Murphy was in the RB position and he comfortably made space for himself and got the ball into midfield starting an attack, think he’s learned a lot off of Trippier. Would love him at RB when his attacking days are done like the way Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia did when they got older. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Murphy makes a lot of mistakes mind, not necessarily the safest option at RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Said it once and will say it again, we should of grabbed Hojland, why the hell we didn't is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Just now, wyn davies said: Said it once and will say it again, we should of grabbed Hojland, why the hell we didn't is beyond me. Because he stunk the league out? Couldn't trap a bag of cement and thought he was at participating in royal rumble. Would have been a massive gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Because he stunk the league out? Couldn't trap a bag of cement and thought he was at participating in royal rumble. Would have been a massive gamble. Doing well elsewhere isn't he?, could of had him in and removed Osula, and would of played last night, whereas our third striker didn't get a sniff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 1 minute ago, wyn davies said: Doing well elsewhere isn't he?, could of had him in and removed Osula, and would of played last night, whereas our third striker didn't get a sniff. Yeah he is but he didn't do well in the league we play in. And the fee was like 40m it would have been a massive risk for us and I'm sure most people would be saying wtf. I purposely watched a lot of them last season as I wanted to see what the fuss was about with Anorim and Rasmus looked absolutely rancid every time. Can't compare him to Orsula who cost us 10+5 and is on a low salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 2 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Doing well elsewhere isn't he?, could have had him in and removed Osula, and would have played last night, whereas our third striker didn't get a sniff. Would have been insane and stupid to have got in a third choice striker on 150k p/w. Unless you wanted him instead of Wissa or Woltermade, which is a different discussion, but probably not one you’ll find much agreement with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted September 19, 2025 Share Posted September 19, 2025 Did Semenyo sign a new deal? Wonder how many years he has left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted September 20, 2025 Share Posted September 20, 2025 Chelsea fans angry that acheampong isn't in the squad Would love us to go for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 20, 2025 Share Posted September 20, 2025 January rumours starting already: https://www.fichajes.net/noticias/newcastle-interesado-cesion-jugador-real-madrid-20250920.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 21, 2025 Share Posted September 21, 2025 (edited) 8 hours ago, sempuki said: January rumours starting already: https://www.fichajes.net/noticias/newcastle-interesado-cesion-jugador-real-madrid-20250920.html “Newcastle wants Endrick Newcastle has been one of the first to ask about their availability. The English club is looking for a young, dynamic and hungry offensive reinforcement for triumphs, qualities that fit right with Endrick's profile. In the Premier League, the Brazilian striker would have the opportunity to measure himself with demanding defences and adapt to a dizzying pace of play. Endrick could become a valuable resource in the rotation of a Newcastle that competes both in the domestic championship and in European tournaments.” We could probably afford to add another. Probably have to if there is any doubt about Wissa’s return. Born 2006 (‘kin hell). 14 caps for Brazil at aged 19 is not a bad sign. Edited September 21, 2025 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 21, 2025 Share Posted September 21, 2025 On 19/09/2025 at 13:39, wyn davies said: Said it once and will say it again, we should of grabbed Hojland, why the hell we didn't is beyond me. Instead of Wissa or Woltemade? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 21, 2025 Share Posted September 21, 2025 On 19/09/2025 at 13:39, wyn davies said: Said it once and will say it again, we should of grabbed Hojland, why the hell we didn't is beyond me. Because all evidence of him as a Premier League player is that he's utter garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 24, 2025 Share Posted September 24, 2025 More Endrick chatter. https://e-noticies.cat/en/soccer/bombshell-endrick-will-leave-real-madrid-in-january-he-has-a-new-team Considering Wissa will be at AFCON, I'd be up for this. We'll need another option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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