NUFC Transfer Rumours

[James]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

One thing I'm looking forward to is getting Ross Wilson - not as big a name as Ashworth and Mitchell but you can see a very good body of work at Forest where within 3-4 seasons they've not just become established in the PL but have actually got a solid side. Probably a better first XI / squad than Brighton/Bournemouth/Crystal Palace etc who have been in the league for much longer. All through high volume trading, it was chaotic but they got rid of the dregs and kept the good ones. 
Wouldn't mind a higher volume approach - feel like we are too specific and too meticulous and risk averse in the market. Minteh is an example of when can happen when we are creative. We either only buy prospects sub 20m or first teamers at 35m plus. Don't get me wrong, we've got an excellent record and that's because of being meticulous etc - just feels slow and unsustainable in a fast growing market. Others will catch up whilst we don't bridge the gap much faster. 

There's a sweet spot we're not operating in that others are doing better than us.

Will need to change the manager then as that is completely against his ethos

[The College Dropout]

On 03/09/2025 at 16:21, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Botman’s just about to become a major strength, surely. Or do you mean his contract? 

The contract, his injuries etc.

 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

One thing I'm looking forward to is getting Ross Wilson - not as big a name as Ashworth and Mitchell but you can see a very good body of work at Forest where within 3-4 seasons they've not just become established in the PL but have actually got a solid side. Probably a better first XI / squad than Brighton/Bournemouth/Crystal Palace etc who have been in the league for much longer. All through high volume trading, it was chaotic but they got rid of the dregs and kept the good ones. 
Wouldn't mind a higher volume approach - feel like we are too specific and too meticulous and risk averse in the market. Minteh is an example of when can happen when we are creative. We either only buy prospects sub 20m or first teamers at 35m plus. Don't get me wrong, we've got an excellent record and that's because of being meticulous etc - just feels slow and unsustainable in a fast growing market. Others will catch up whilst we don't bridge the gap much faster. 

There's a sweet spot we're not operating in that others are doing better than us.

How much of that is down to the leadership/owner? He owns multiple clubs and has regular shady dealings with others.

 

Out ownership is slow. Can't see them sanctioning so much action over sustained windows.

 

Don't think Eddie loves it either.

[The Prophet]

36 minutes ago, James said:

Will need to change the manager then as that is completely against his ethos

 

[James]

58 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

he wants to move to high volume player trading whereas Howe wants a small select group of new signings each year. The strategy and manager clearly aren’t compatible 

[MagPar]

5 hours ago, Abacus said:

Yeah, I know that really. I was just amusing myself with the idea.

 

 

 

I'm not confident Liverpool will get him either tbh. By seeing out his contract he's opened up his world to all the big teams. It's a dice roll now I think. Definitely not Newcastle unfortunately, but Liverpool or Spain, PSG, Bayern. I wouldn't be confident placing a bet on his next team.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

11 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The likes of Brighton will never catch up with their approach. They are trying to stay around mid table and maybe qualify for Europa once in a while. We are trying to win the league. 

 

Been trying to square the Brighton thing for a little while and I can't see how or why we'd follow their approach at all.

 

Their model is based on buying low, on the first team for a season or two then sell high, reinvesting the funds on a player at the level of the one they have sold but when they bought him. It's a cycle of essentially inching forward.

 

That's us buying Isak for £60 and selling him for £130, or doing the same with Tonali etc.

 

Minteh did not follow the Brighton model as we bought him, sent him on loan then sold him. That's Chelsea lite.

 

Where we need to be is the cartel churn of reserve and young players where we can sell 2 a year for £20-£40m after they've played 5 cup games and a season in league 2.

 

We get there through then long haul of developing the academy so it has stature, win a couple of youth cups and getting a shit load of youth/u21 caps in the development squad.

[cubaricho]

Random  

 

 

But also good for him man. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Good sick or bad sick?

[The College Dropout]

On 08/09/2025 at 20:45, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

Been trying to square the Brighton thing for a little while and I can't see how or why we'd follow their approach at all.

 

Their model is based on buying low, on the first team for a season or two then sell high, reinvesting the funds on a player at the level of the one they have sold but when they bought him. It's a cycle of essentially inching forward.

 

That's us buying Isak for £60 and selling him for £130, or doing the same with Tonali etc.

 

Minteh did not follow the Brighton model as we bought him, sent him on loan then sold him. That's Chelsea lite.

 

Where we need to be is the cartel churn of reserve and young players where we can sell 2 a year for £20-£40m after they've played 5 cup games and a season in league 2.

 

We get there through then long haul of developing the academy so it has stature, win a couple of youth cups and getting a shit load of youth/u21 caps in the development squad.

You do know you don't have to do it exactly like them?

 

Brighton's aims are to be safe in the division and make money. So their transfer approach facilitates that.

 

I do agree that the most effective way is to sell players you don't really need/want for big money but that's impossible until you're a cartel club at the level required. Aston Villa have both the best squad and youth team outside of the cartel 6. They've sold well - rarely losing star players, selling youth products and they are still in the shit with PSR.

 

Their overall revenue can be half of Spurs. Fucked.

[janpawel]

31 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You do know you don't have to do it exactly like them?

 

Brighton's aims are to be safe in the division and make money. So their transfer approach facilitates that.

 

I do agree that the most effective way is to sell players you don't really need/want for big money but that's impossible until you're a cartel club at the level required. Aston Villa have both the best squad and youth team outside of the cartel 6. They've sold well - rarely losing star players, selling youth products and they are still in the shit with PSR.

 

Their overall revenue can be half of Spurs. Fucked.

 

I'd agree Aston Villa had the best squad up until this new season 

 

But I think we have both the best 11 and squad after our recent spending spree 

[The College Dropout]

6 minutes ago, janpawel said:

 

I'd agree Aston Villa had the best squad up until this new season 

 

But I think we have both the best 11 and squad after our recent spending spree 

That wasn't really the point.

 

We still don't have many squad players we could sell for good money. 

 

 

Although fees for Kelly, Almiron and others have been good

 

 

Edited September 10, 2025 by The College Dropout

[Dr.Spaceman]

4 minutes ago, janpawel said:

 

I'd agree Aston Villa had the best squad up until this new season 

 

But I think we have both the best 11 and squad after our recent spending spree 

 

One symptom of PSR is the amount of unbalanced squads popping up all over the league within the other 14. I think we've done quite well with our recruitment this summer and are well placed to take a few gambles over the next couple of windows on some relatively low fees for some promising youngsters given the base we've now given ourselves.

 

Assuming both Wissa and Woltemade turn out decent I will agree with you, but it's too early to make that call imo.

[nufcjmc]

Its sad to look at the next set of sales as they have all contributed in various degrees at this stage and at one time or another haven't been the "dead wood" of the squad.

 

Barnes and willock are the two most likely for me to be worth something of note to reinvest. Although players like Gordon and tonali may not stay if they want to be playing at certain levels ie champions league.

 

Miley unfortunately may also be a casualty of the desire for more games and needing to move on to get them but hope its not the case with big joe 29 and bruno 28 at this stage there may be a longer succession game if player can wait. 

 

Then there is the running down contract people

 

Does pope agree to yearly extensions and stays or get a deal to keep or have value to sell like longstaff.

 

Does lascelles agree to yearly extensions or go.

 

Similarly kraft.

 

Then there is the OG 3 of trips,  burn, schar all 34/35 this year to consider how long they want and can stay at this level. 

 

Alot of investment needed on immediate needs in the next 2 years if the youth purchases cant break into first team plans. 

[Yorkie]

4 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

One symptom of PSR is the amount of unbalanced squads popping up all over the league within the other 14. I think we've done quite well with our recruitment this summer and are well placed to take a few gambles over the next couple of windows on some relatively low fees for some promising youngsters given the base we've now given ourselves.

 

Assuming both Wissa and Woltemade turn out decent I will agree with you, but it's too early to make that call imo.

 

Yeah good point and something I was gonna raise in the 'rate the transfer window' thread but had already waffled on plenty.

 

It felt like - during those lean weeks of the transfer window - those were the signings loads of people on here were yearning for us to make. But the gamble was too great at this time. Clearly we were engaging in a pretty big squad churn this summer - with very well established squad members in need of replacing/upgrading - so it was crucial that we sunk our finances into as sure a thing(s) as possible.

 

The strikers, wingers, centre-mids, full-backs all have a sense of being 'resolved' at this point (obviously pending performances!) The next signings at goalie and CB may still require that low-risk/high-reward type of investment, but elsewhere you think there could be room for those higher-risk signings like you say.

[Alberto2005]

Gordon is the one to sell, I don't think it would have a massive impact on our squad with a replacement.

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Yeah good point and something I was gonna raise in the 'rate the transfer window' thread but had already waffled on plenty.

 

It felt like - during those lean weeks of the transfer window - those were the signings loads of people on here were yearning for us to make. But the gamble was too great at this time. Clearly we were engaging in a pretty big squad churn this summer - with very well established squad members in need of replacing/upgrading - so it was crucial that we sunk our finances into as sure a thing(s) as possible.

 

The strikers, wingers, centre-mids, full-backs all have a sense of being 'resolved' at this point (obviously pending performances!) The next signings at goalie and CB may still require that low-risk/high-reward type of investment, but elsewhere you think there could be room for those higher-risk signings like you say.

 

Even at CB we've got Thiaw and Botman who could be our pairing for a few seasons over the next 4/5 years, but I agree it's thinning with each year beyond that.

 

Someone mentioned selling Miley earlier in the thread but surely there's a spot for him somewhere if we're persisting with three in the middle. Our best XI doesn't need to be exclusively replaced like for like over the coming years.

[Stal]

I was asked the other week "who is that lass who talks about football on youtube? Looks like Lucy Letby?"

[The College Dropout]

I don't think we have loads of room for "gambles".

 

Our squad depth is mostly due to having older backups with low resale value. Trippier, Krafth, Lascelles, Schar, Burn & Murphy won't fund their own replacements. Most of these will leave for free.

 

Going to enjoy them while they are here. Really like all of them.

[Dr.Spaceman]

24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't think we have loads of room for "gambles".

 

Our squad depth is mostly due to having older backups with low resale value. Trippier, Krafth, Lascelles, Schar, Burn & Murphy won't fund their own replacements. Most of these will leave for free.

 

Going to enjoy them while they are here. Really like all of them.

 

Yep, same.

[SteV]

41 minutes ago, Stal said:

I was asked the other week "who is that lass who talks about football on youtube? Looks like Lucy Letby?"

Well that’s all I’ll ever be able to think about if ever I see one of her videos now…

[Stal]

Just now, SteV said:

Well that’s all I’ll ever be able to think about if ever I see one of her videos now…

 

Lol sorry 

[Jewel]

We should revisit the Osula sale in future windows, if we can. 30m plus for him would be an incredible bit of business.

[nufcjmc]

Just driving back from food shopping so had bbc radio Newcastle on and think they said Howe has confirmed they wanted another midfielder and didn't get it. 

 

Anyone hear this? Not sure if its come from all extra press access they now have to do now. 

[KingArthur]

25 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

Just driving back from food shopping so had bbc radio Newcastle on and think they said Howe has confirmed they wanted another midfielder and didn't get it. 

 

Anyone hear this? Not sure if its come from all extra press access they now have to do now. 

He said before the end of the window that "we are looking for 1 more" and it was Wissa. So don't know where they got that and certainly we would need to sell one to buy one midfielder.