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Nice bit of light unsettling going on:

 

Newcastle and Italy midfielder Sandro Tonali is homesick for AC Milan, with Juventus also interested in the 25-year-old. (Corriere della Sera - in Italian)

 

Tonali does not have a release clause in his Newcastle contract and will review his future on a year-by-year basis. (Sky Sports)

 

Liverpool and Chelsea might make a move Newcastle's 25-year-old Dutch defender Sven Botman. (Caught Offside)

 

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51 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Get another striker in in Jan,

I don’t see Osula as a serious option. 

 

 

 

Osula is a perfect fit for a third choice center forward. Still developing and full of endeavour when he gets minutes. We’re not going to spend big on yet another center forward unless one leaves.

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10 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Osula is a perfect fit for a third choice center forward. Still developing and full of endeavour when he gets minutes. We’re not going to spend big on yet another center forward unless one leaves.


Sure maybe so and if Wissa is fit and Woltemade is still firing then that’ll make the situation a lot easier. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if Osula went and maybe someone came in however but it’s probably not a priority on reflection. 
 

Our front line doesn’t look up to it currently though but maybe that’s more and indictment of the wingers rather than striking unit given one of the players hasn’t even turned out for us yet. 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:


Sure maybe so and if Wissa is fit and Woltemade is still firing then that’ll make the situation a lot easier. It wouldn’t surprise me that much if Osula went and maybe someone came in however but it’s probably not a priority on reflection. 
 

Our front line doesn’t look up to it currently though but maybe that’s more and indictment of the wingers rather than striking unit given one of the players hasn’t even turned out for us yet. 

 

 

 

As you say, Wissa’s absence and Elanga, Gordon and Barnes not producing are far bigger problems than Osula. Sure, if someone comes in again with a 30m offer he’s probably gone and we’d need a replacement, but chances of that are pretty slim and I’m not sure Eddie would want to lose him mid season. Personally I’m more frustrated about Wissa, for whom we overpaid (considering lack of resale value) and who was supposed to be the guy who was going to hit the ground running to fill the Isak shaped hole in our squad.

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5 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

As you say, Wissa’s absence and Elanga, Gordon and Barnes not producing are far bigger problems than Osula. Sure, if someone comes in again with a 30m offer he’s probably gone and we’d need a replacement, but chances of that are pretty slim and I’m not sure Eddie would want to lose him mid season. Personally I’m more frustrated about Wissa, for whom we overpaid (considering lack of resale value) and who was supposed to be the guy who was going to hit the ground running to fill the Isak shaped hole in our squad.


Yes the Wissa injury has completely knackered us in the sense that we’ve been forced to completely switch our style of play with Woltemade rather than it being another option. Wissa would’ve and will allow us to play in a way we’re more used to. His pace stretches teams. Going on strike like Isak has definitely contributed to his injury situation because he was clearly lacking physical condition. We’ve spent 110m on Elanga and Wissa and so far for different reasons we’ve had absolutely nowt from either transfer, that’s far from ideal. 

 

 

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Who the hell has 3 good number 9's on the books 

 

Osula is as good as it gets for a third choice, reminds me of this topic ages ago where loads were obsessed with having 3 strikers. No top club does that, they have 5/6 quality options across the front 3 that they use 

 

We have Woltemade, Wissa, Gordon, Barnes, Elanga, Murphy, that's 6, then Osula 

 

If they aren't performing well enough... Thats a different conversation 

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28 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Who the hell has 3 good number 9's on the books 

 

Osula is as good as it gets for a third choice, reminds me of this topic ages ago where loads were obsessed with having 3 strikers. No top club does that, they have 5/6 quality options across the front 3 that they use 

 

We have Woltemade, Wissa, Gordon, Barnes, Elanga, Murphy, that's 6, then Osula 

 

If they aren't performing well enough... Thats a different conversation 


No side plays with two strikers though and there’s a dearth of talent in strikers, but three probably by end of decade isn’t an unreasonable thing for squads to have (obviously not three out and out 9s, but three that can play centrally effectively). 

 

Osula IMO is not good enough in any of the positions. He is bang average. He will need selling and someone signing in summer who can play up front if club is looking at a 4-2-3-1 /4-4-2 evolution.  

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6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:


No side plays with two strikers though and there’s a dearth of talent in strikers, but three probably by end of decade isn’t an unreasonable thing for squads to have (obviously not three out and out 9s, but three that can play centrally effectively). 

 

Osula IMO is not good enough in any of the positions. He is bang average. He will need selling and someone signing in summer who can play up front if club is looking at a 4-2-3-1 /4-4-2 evolution.  

Osula is no worse than some of our other forward players, is he? I mean I’ve been reading the same comment as yours above for years about first Almiron, then Murphy, and here we are, a 55m investment further, with Murphy still as our best right winger and Elanga yet to show anything like what Almiron managed to do for us at his best. Who is even going to come here as third choice center forward who’s an upgrade on Osula?

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Assuming Ramsdale stays - the next 4 priority positions should be:

 

RB - that can also play CB (Kalulu type)

LB - just a pure LB thar can pass, defend, attack 

CM - an all round player - a real quality one

RW - a creative type - in the mould of Kang-In Lee

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10 minutes ago, Mikky said:

Assuming Ramsdale stays - the next 4 priority positions should be:

 

RB - that can also play CB (Kalulu type)

LB - just a pure LB thar can pass, defend, attack 

CM - an all round player - a real quality one

RW - a creative type - in the mould of Kang-In Lee

The full backs are going to be tricky. We all say the full backs are sorted for the next 5 years so what profile of player do you bring in? Who would come? I'd probably go for more of a utility player that's a better full back than Burn but a worse centre half. I say that as I doubt we'd get someone as good as Burn at centre half and a better full back. 

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2 hours ago, janpawel said:

Who the hell has 3 good number 9's on the books 

 

Osula is as good as it gets for a third choice, reminds me of this topic ages ago where loads were obsessed with having 3 strikers. No top club does that, they have 5/6 quality options across the front 3 that they use 

 

We have Woltemade, Wissa, Gordon, Barnes, Elanga, Murphy, that's 6, then Osula 

 

If they aren't performing well enough... Thats a different conversation 


I guess midfielders not joining the attack enough and misfiring wingers is probably the greater issue. We just don’t create or score enough goals and Woltemade is isolated too often.

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I could see a full-back signed in January. Krafth out of contract and linked with Copenhagen, Trippier getting on, Hall and Livramento struggled with injuries, Targett gone. That's probably all though & I don't think we'd be desperate to do it, it would only be if we could get the player/value we wanted.

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2 hours ago, Mikky said:

Assuming Ramsdale stays - the next 4 priority positions should be:

 

RB - that can also play CB (Kalulu type)

LB - just a pure LB thar can pass, defend, attack 

CM - an all round player - a real quality one

RW - a creative type - in the mould of Kang-In Lee

 

No way we go for a RW any time soon.  Took us three years to get this one and they're not going to write him off until the end of next season at the earliest.  Stuck with a dud RW and hoping Murphy can continue to produce for the foreseeable.

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35 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

This is probably not going to happen, but to get the most out of Woltemade I think we have to swap to a 4231/442. I'd add a striker to compete with Wissa.

Also opens options to play 3 at the back if we thought beat on a game by game basis.

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6 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

Osula is no worse than some of our other forward players, is he? I mean I’ve been reading the same comment as yours above for years about first Almiron, then Murphy, and here we are, a 55m investment further, with Murphy still as our best right winger and Elanga yet to show anything like what Almiron managed to do for us at his best. Who is even going to come here as third choice center forward who’s an upgrade on Osula?


Osula is terrible. If we’re to be a serious club, he shouldn’t be seeing minutes.

 

And it’s not third choice, would be someone to back themself to push Wissa out the side, as Wolte is surely signed with a 4-4-1-1 in mind. We’ve seen with Gordon he can’t play up front, Elanga I want to see tried up there, but probably doesn’t happen. So then you want someone who’s better than Ousla.
 

Because let’s be honest, if we’re playing games next season and Osula is leading the line, Christ.

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Trippier leaves, it’s two full backs needed. 
 

Need a young CB to replace Schar.

 

Need a dynamic CM that can progress the ball.
 

Then it comes down to the front attack. Gordon / Barnes / Murphy / Osula all have a selling price. One or two goes, then both need replacing of game changing quality. Think it will be just Osula who goes in 2026 though. Murphy is a hard one, because he will have a good price point for someone who’s 31 with 12 months left. And he will rightly want to cash in for one final big contract. Do we give him a 3+1 at £80k+ at his age? Or accept he’s off for £15m+ and let a bottom end prem club pick him up.

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A full back please. Either side. Preferably LB but just get one in. If they can play left or right that's a bonus as well.

 

It's such a huge position and it's been a problem for a couple years now. We're lucky Trippier has been so injury free for his age.

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3 hours ago, Sibierski said:

Trippier leaves, it’s two full backs needed. 
 

Need a young CB to replace Schar.

 

Need a dynamic CM that can progress the ball.
 

Then it comes down to the front attack. Gordon / Barnes / Murphy / Osula all have a selling price. One or two goes, then both need replacing of game changing quality. Think it will be just Osula who goes in 2026 though. Murphy is a hard one, because he will have a good price point for someone who’s 31 with 12 months left. And he will rightly want to cash in for one final big contract. Do we give him a 3+1 at £80k+ at his age? Or accept he’s off for £15m+ and let a bottom end prem club pick him up.

 

I really want us to get Acheampong, has played right back and CB, looks supremely talented, plus we love the Chelsea graduates (Hall, Tino) and they love selling them. He could be 2nd choice RCB + RB, and I'm sure he'd get plenty of minutes, he's only 19

 

Would be happy with him + a LB

 

Would love us to revamp our wingers, selling 1 and getting a Akliouche type, we have enough pace merchants already 

 

CM as well, but depends on how Ramsey gets on

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