TRC Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Getting in a striker doesn’t seem realistic unless we move Wissa or Wolte on. We play 1 upfront and won’t be in the CL next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 https://x.com/i/status/2018722369024524496 Have we been getting ripped off or? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, The Prophet said: The squad doesn't need major surely. A GK and a CM to impact the first eleven and cover across the defence would do fine, depending on outgoings of course I’d add a RW to that - but yeah, that’s about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Think we need quite a bit given the age profile and contract status of some squad players. I imagine we lose at least2 purples that need replacing as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 hours ago, TRC said: Getting in a striker doesn’t seem realistic unless we move Wissa or Wolte on. We play 1 upfront and won’t be in the CL next season. Yup. We spent 130m eight months ago on these strikers. They are going to be the strikers we have for the foreseeable future, might as well figure out a way to use them. New signings will be focused on the areas where we have players fully amortized/aging out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Madness that were almost 5 years into the takeover and we still need a decent option at RW, its been a problem area since day 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Mattoon said: Madness that were almost 5 years into the takeover and we still need a decent option at RW, its been a problem area since day 1 It is ridiculous, such poor planning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Hindsight but there was surely a willing buyer for Murphy in the £20m region last summer? Could have given us a squad space to sign a similarly priced Anderlecht regen that so many crave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Hindsight but there was surely a willing buyer for Murphy in the £20m region last summer? Could have given us a squad space to sign a similarly priced Anderlecht regen that so many crave. Actually not worth it to sell him imo. His output is great for price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Mattoon said: Madness that were almost 5 years into the takeover and we still need a decent option at RW, its been a problem area since day 1 We had one of the most promising RW's in Europe. And then we ran into a PSR wall and had to sell him. I think people underestimate the damage PSR has done to us. We caught up with the top clubs relatively quickly post-takeover but at the expense that it's kneecapped our growth in the next period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Actually not worth it to sell him imo. His output is great for price. 2 goals and 3 assists in 16 starts & 10 sub apps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: 2 goals and 3 assists in 16 starts & 10 sub apps. I'm presuming he's considering the previous two seasons. But even this season on a per 90 basis he's averaging a goal or assist every 3 games which ain't bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said: I'm presuming he's considering the previous two seasons. But even this season on a per 90 basis he's averaging a goal or assist every 3 games which ain't bad. And this is where we fail a bit as a club. It's clear Murphy was performing above his ability (similar to Miggy), he's 30 now, we've probably lost our chances at a decent fee for him now. He likely stays until his contract is up or goes for a nominal fee. He was never going to keep that level of numbers up into his 30s. People kept saying he was perfect for Isak, but Isak was also perfect for him. Edited February 4 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: And this is where we fail a bit as a club. It's clear Murphy was performing above his ability (similar to Miggy), he's 30 now, we've probably lost our chances at a decent fee for him now. He likely stays until his contract is up or goes for a nominal fee. He was never going to keep that level of numbers up into his 30s. His numbers have been consistent for a couple of years. I don't think not selling Murphy is a failing of the club. Sometimes players have more value to your club than they do others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 57 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: 2 hours ago, Mattoon said: Madness that were almost 5 years into the takeover and we still need a decent option at RW, its been a problem area since day 1 It is ridiculous, such poor planning What should we have done to avoid the tags of ridiculous and poor planning? Is it not more that the position has been occupied by unpopular players, or players who the manager has got playing well above their baseline? It certainly wasn't a problem area by any stretch last season, Murphy was brilliant. We also got a fee for Miggy a year ago and invested in - theoretically - a massive upgrade in Elanga at the point at which we could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 55 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: 2 goals and 3 assists in 16 starts & 10 sub apps. Now look up some of our other attackers and compare. This is great for the price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: 2 goals and 3 assists in 16 starts & 10 sub apps. If we had decent forwards he'd have 10 assists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 39 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What should we have done to avoid the tags of ridiculous and poor planning? Is it not more that the position has been occupied by unpopular players, or players who the manager has got playing well above their baseline? It certainly wasn't a problem area by any stretch last season, Murphy was brilliant. We also got a fee for Miggy a year ago and invested in - theoretically - a massive upgrade in Elanga at the point at which we could. I'm not attributing blame specifically to Howe or the club, we tried to rectify the situation in the summer but we were thwarted by PSR and the club's that don't have to follow the rules and we weren't to know that Elanga wouldn't take the step up very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, stozo said: We had one of the most promising RW's in Europe. And then we ran into a PSR wall and had to sell him. I think people underestimate the damage PSR has done to us. We caught up with the top clubs relatively quickly post-takeover but at the expense that it's kneecapped our growth in the next period. I still think he was bought for precisely tha purpose. Part of the issue is that he’s the only one we’ve done it with - Chelsea in particular has done this really well over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Hindsight but there was surely a willing buyer for Murphy in the £20m region last summer? Could have given us a squad space to sign a similarly priced Anderlecht regen that so many crave. 1 hour ago, r0cafella said: Actually not worth it to sell him imo. His output is great for price. We’ve been shite sellers for some time. You sell at peak value under PSR to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said: If we had decent forwards he'd have 10 assists One trick pony which was great with Isak. He puts balls in dangerous areas but rarely actually looks up. He just puts ball in an area. Mentioned after a recent match, Wissa scored 3 of his 19 last season from RW passes/crosses, Woltemade isn't that sort of striker. And this is where cashing in when he's at his peak while we have to move to a different way of playing and different styles of strikers comes in. We've done the same with Willock by all accounts this window. £40m potentially gone lost out on players we'll never get that sort of money for again, while we are hampered by PSR? Love where the club is going, I just think our inability to sell the "non-purples" at the right time is a weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 22 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said: If we had decent forwards he'd have 10 assists If the forwards were firing, Elanga would have a few more too. Gordon and Barnes have fluffed a couple he's put on a plate for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 15 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We’ve been shite sellers for some time. You sell at peak value under PSR to move on. Aye we aren't great sellers it's true, I think we are way past that point with Murphy tbh. Very little point selling him he's good to keep in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 We bought a new RW this season, he’s just been rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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