The College Dropout Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Toon88 said: The majority of players going to Saudi are all Muslim. If only we had Papiss Cisse, Hatem Ben Arfa, Massadio Haidara, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Moussa Sissoko and Mehdi Abeid up for sale, we’d be laughing right now. Unfortunately, we’ve got a load of deadwood, non-Muslims, on massive wages, who we are having to pay off to kindly leave. Terrible situation for us. We have 2 Jamal’s :wink But seriously them both and Hendricks. Double their wages. Modest fees. Couple years in KSA. Lewis might not take it but the last 2 need to think about their families. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: This is a viable route. B UT leaves us with 2 problems (assuming Thuram is the added midfielder). 1. Bruno is still the only CM that is creative from open play, who can constantly make those line splitting passes. 2. ASM is the only winger with any guile or massive creativity. In that scenario we are still short of a passer. Whether CM or wide. That Szo/JM profile. I'd hope that Tonali would be able to play those passes too but yeah, in general I'd share the concerns. Particularly with ASM being a huge question mark in terms of expecting him to be fit for very long. Personally I'd rather see us buy a winger and use Joelinton primarily as a CM who can play LW when needed, just trying to see the logic in going another way. If the wide players we really want aren't attainable this summer and the value is in building a quality group of CMs, I won't hate it. Go into next summer with fewer holes and better FFP flexibility and you could be looking at adding a Raphinha or a Kvaratskhelia level player instead of settling for a Harvey Barnes this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Good thread with two fans that broadly highlights the often split of opinions in here. One in the break the bank and sign anything that breathes mould and another pointing out the pitfalls and the need for a sensible strategic approach requiring more patience… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shak said: I'd hope that Tonali would be able to play those passes too but yeah, in general I'd share the concerns. Particularly with ASM being a huge question mark in terms of expecting him to be fit for very long. Personally I'd rather see us buy a winger and use Joelinton primarily as a CM who can play LW when needed, just trying to see the logic in going another way. If the wide players we really want aren't attainable this summer and the value is in building a quality group of CMs, I won't hate it. Go into next summer with fewer holes and better FFP flexibility and you could be looking at adding a Raphinha or a Kvaratskhelia level player instead of settling for a Harvey Barnes this year. Re: Tonali. The data suggests he’s not that passer. I agree with you really. I just think that option is viable but carries that risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Needing to increase revenue is a fact either way. How we go about it is the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LFEE said: Good thread with two fans that broadly highlights the often split of opinions in here. One in the break the bank and sign anything that breathes mould and another pointing out the pitfalls and the need for a sensible strategic approach requiring more patience… We've plenty of cash to spend - £55 mil on Tonali over 5 years is £11Mil out of this years budget. Edited July 4, 2023 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Probably Liverpool, they're after a CB. Won’t be Liverpool, they are wanting a LCB who can also play LB, they are all in for Colwill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, duo said: We've plenty of cash to spend - £55 mil on Tonali over 5 years is £11Mil out of this years budget. Yeah but we're also still paying for Bruno, Trips, Botman, Isak... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Needing to increase revenue is a fact either way. How we go about it is the issue. Don’t think there’s much doubt that our revenue is going to rocket. But you’d still have to decide whether to spend that ahead of time or wait until the actual cash comes in. I still believe we could spend £200m this window if we could find the players to come. Edited July 4, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Won’t be Liverpool, they are wanting a LCB who can also play LB, they are all in for Colwill. No chance they are getting Colwill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Pray for Ikon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Not really their transfer model. Man Utd I’d say for Pound Shop Pep ball. Didn't they lose there centreback to Chelsea last summer? So might be them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, duo said: We've plenty of cash to spend - £55 mil on Tonali over 5 years is £11Mil out of this years budget. Pretty sure I read somewhere that as they are classed as assets then they depreciate year on year so the 5th year isn't £11m but correct me if I'm wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Tooner Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, duo said: We've plenty of cash to spend - £55 mil on Tonali over 5 years is £11Mil out of this years budget. How do you know that the installments to Milan are over 5 years?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, Tina Tooner said: How do you know that the installments to Milan are over 5 years?? For FFP the cost per year is amortised over the course of the contract. Nothing to do with instalments to Milan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Has anyone worked out/broken down what our spending was last season and year before (Based on how FFP works with the spread per year of contract)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Gazzaschicken said: Pretty sure I read somewhere that as they are classed as assets then they depreciate year on year so the 5th year isn't £11m but correct me if I'm wrong It’s £55m spread over 5 years, so £11m per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: Has anyone worked out/broken down what our spending was last season and year before (Based on how FFP works with the spread per year of contract)? YouTube has the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 We probably never had a chance… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Shak said: Pray for Ikon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Aye, nice to see us in there for him but think a prospect like Guler is a bit beyond our reach right now. Was hoping he'd go to Barca and they'd flog us Raphinha, mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I doubt Dan Ashworth is surprised by this development. Its just nice to see us attempting to get this calibre of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Maybe I’m naive af but that feels like such a poor move for a player who should be playing regularly given how good he’s meant to be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, LiquidAK said: Maybe I’m naive af but that feels like such a poor move for a player who should be playing regularly given how good he’s meant to be I agree, but how easy is it to say no when a club like Real Madrid knock on your door? Hopefully he will be loaned out to continue development in a decent club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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