andycap Posted Sunday at 23:11 Share Posted Sunday at 23:11 I like the lad and he offers something different to our team when he gets games. Earlier this season he was bang in form but had to sit on the bench because gordon couldn't be dropped. And I worried that by the time he does get a game his form would of dropped off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted Sunday at 23:12 Share Posted Sunday at 23:12 Just not sure he does enough other than finishing (at which he is incredible); not a very dynamic player. Doesn’t seem to have kicked on physically like other players under Howe. Canny enough squad option but not sure that’s what you want for the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 23:13 Share Posted Sunday at 23:13 1 minute ago, andycap said: I like the lad and he offers something different to our team when he gets games. Earlier this season he was bang in form but had to sit on the bench because gordon couldn't be dropped. And I worried that by the time he does get a game his form would of dropped off. There was absolutely a spell where I considered whether he should be dropped for Gordon like. Gordon was nowhere near his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Sunday at 23:16 Share Posted Sunday at 23:16 2 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Just not sure he does enough other than finishing (at which he is incredible); not a very dynamic player. Doesn’t seem to have kicked on physically like other players under Howe. Canny enough squad option but not sure that’s what you want for the price. I think his game time is so limited now that he doesn't get the time to impress he must feel he has to smash a few in every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Sunday at 23:17 Share Posted Sunday at 23:17 He should be able to be a starter on the right, his competition there is Murphy and Miggy, he should be able to fight for a starting position. I don't know but it seems like he is only interested in playing if it's on the left and give him the opportunity to cut inside and score. He should be doing everything he can to try to convince Eddie that he can make the right side his because he's not going to dislodge Gordon from the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Sunday at 23:19 Share Posted Sunday at 23:19 1 minute ago, Jackie Broon said: He should be able to be a starter on the right, his competition there is Murphy and Miggy, he should be able to fight for a starting position. I don't know but it seems like he is only interested in playing if it's on the left and give him the opportunity to cut inside and score. He should be doing everything he can to try to convince Eddie that he can make the right side his because he's not going to dislodge Gordon from the left. Earlier in the season he was arguably our best player with isak Bruno Gordon joelinton stinking the place up and he still wasn't favoured to start on either wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Sunday at 23:19 Share Posted Sunday at 23:19 Murphy has been one of the best players in the league since Brentford like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Sunday at 23:22 Share Posted Sunday at 23:22 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Murphy has been one of the best players in the league since Brentford like And? 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted Sunday at 23:23 Share Posted Sunday at 23:23 Just now, andycap said: And? 😂 Sorry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted Sunday at 23:27 Share Posted Sunday at 23:27 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Sorry? I'm not disputing Murphy has been brilliant. Early in the season he want though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Sunday at 23:27 Share Posted Sunday at 23:27 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Sorry? He wanted you to sing a song I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Sunday at 23:32 Share Posted Sunday at 23:32 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Murphy has been one of the best players in the league since Brentford like I like Murphy, and I've defended him in the past when a lot of people have been on his back. I think he can be really effective player and a very useful squad player for us and is in a good run of form, but he is also incredibly frustrating and wasteful a lot of the time, still. Barnes should be seeing the right side as a position to aim to make his own, but I get the impression he sees it as somewhere he doesn't want to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Sunday at 23:34 Share Posted Sunday at 23:34 Just now, Jackie Broon said: I like Murphy, and I've defended him in the past when a lot of people have been on his back. I think he can be really effective player and a very useful squad player for us and is in a good run of form, but he is also incredibly frustrating and wasteful a lot of the time, still. Barnes should be seeing the right side as a position to aim to make his own, but I get the impression he sees it as somewhere he doesn't want to play. Because he's more of an inside forward and Gordon is a bit more versatile. They are kind of similar though so I can see both maybe not wanting to play right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted Sunday at 23:40 Share Posted Sunday at 23:40 2 minutes ago, McDog said: Because he's more of an inside forward and Gordon is a bit more versatile. They are kind of similar though so I can see both maybe not wanting to play right. But Gordon is first choice for the left and it's clear that is not going to change, earlier in the season when Barnes was on fire and Gordon was struggling to find form Gordon was still first choice. If he wants starts he's going to have to adapt to a different position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted Sunday at 23:43 Share Posted Sunday at 23:43 Just now, Jackie Broon said: But Gordon is first choice for the left and it's clear that is not going to change, earlier in the season when Barnes was on fire and Gordon was struggling to find form Gordon was still first choice. If he wants starts he's going to have to adapt to a different position. Not sure he suited. Gordon has played right this year. Played RW at Everton too. I agree though that he now seems entrenched at LW or backup ST (Gordon) so if Barnes wants more minutes, he plays RW. Not sure that he is well suited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted Sunday at 23:44 Share Posted Sunday at 23:44 There's players who look like they can operate on both flanks, bu t Barnes hasn't shown any appetite nor aptitude for that. In fact you can narrow down where he is effective to a somewhat small patch of the field Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted yesterday at 00:01 Share Posted yesterday at 00:01 I miss the BIG partnership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted yesterday at 00:18 Share Posted yesterday at 00:18 10 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: I miss the BIG partnership I don't. There were good reasons for trying it but we've won 8 games in a row since we ditched it... Body language-tastic but he looks like he's lost heart since he was putting everything into the start of the season, was our only reliable offensive outlet, and still didn't look like he was gonna be made a true starter for us. Would understand if that got him down, albeit you'd want him to keep digging away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted yesterday at 00:59 Share Posted yesterday at 00:59 Annoyingly, as I don't like to lose an argument, I was chatting with a friend who very early on took just one look at Barnes and didn't rate him. I then spent quite a long time condescendingly explaining to her why she was wrong, as he was a good finisher, great assists etc. She merely wrinkled her face in a "we'll see" kind of way. But as time has gone by, I can't get that out of my head and think she's right. He's a good player in the right team, but here he seems like a jigsaw piece that doesn't quite fit. He doesn't defend or track back and goes invisible at times. He's not even a supersub any more, I think Murphy is better on the right and he doesn't hold a candle to Gordon on the left. Like I say, a good player but I'd sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelrouser Posted yesterday at 01:59 Share Posted yesterday at 01:59 We bought two left wingers when we had a need on the right wing. That is not Barnes' fault and forcing him into a position that does not fit him is not a solution. It wasn't Joelinton's fault he wasn't a striker either. Our two deep lw is what we should aspire to at every position. Pretty good at lcb Botman/Burn and rb Livramento/Trippier too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted yesterday at 03:12 Share Posted yesterday at 03:12 Probably not a coincidence that Murphy has done much better since we pushed Bruno up close to him. Just as Bruno was highly involved on the right when Trippier and Miggy were doing well. Only exceptional players can do well with little support. Even isak struggled to make an impression when he was isolated up front. I would question how much game time Barnes has been given in a team near full strength with a balanced and functioning system. I think Barnes has done reasonably well for us, and IMO was a good buy. It is mostly super stupid PSR rules, the need to allocate your resources with surgical precision, that questions the deal. Since PSR also rules out buying unproven potential that does not come to fruition, this also pushes the club toward Tino, Hall, Barnes type conservative signings and not some cheap, potentially high ceiling signing from abroad. Staveley said on several occasions that the club could not afford to make transfer mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted yesterday at 03:20 Share Posted yesterday at 03:20 7 minutes ago, Stottie said: Probably not a coincidence that Murphy has done much better since we pushed Bruno up close to him. Just as Bruno was highly involved on the right when Trippier and Miggy were doing well. Only exceptional players can do well with little support. Even isak struggled to make an impression when he was isolated up front. I would question how much game time Barnes has been given in a team near full strength with a balanced and functioning system. I think Barnes has done reasonably well for us, and IMO was a good buy. It is mostly super stupid PSR rules, the need to allocate your resources with surgical precision, that questions the deal. Since PSR also rules out buying unproven potential that does not come to fruition, this also pushes the club toward Tino, Hall, Barnes type conservative signings and not some cheap, potentially high ceiling signing from abroad. Staveley said on several occasions that the club could not afford to make transfer mistakes. Good post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) https://x.com/SkySports_Keith/status/1879098708878618939 Edited 6 hours ago by Geordie Ahmed . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Out for a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Never really got started with us, either from his foot injury or a consistent run of appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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