Lazarus Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Ive refused to watch a Barnes highlights vid as a thread here normally means the transfers kiss of death. Might have to watch a few. By a few - I mean all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, brummie said: Surprised at the lukewarm-ness of this thread. I really rate Barnes. Decent coaching instead of Rodgers sat with his feet up, coasting and waiting for the pay off will make the difference here. I really rate Barnes, but also completely underwhelmed by the signing. Think it comes down to rating ASM (and Maddison as well Tbf) higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: £80m on English wingers that don’t make the England squad. Harsh on Gordon given he's part of the youth setup. Barnes has a point to prove, and I kind of like that energy coming to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANqQT-Z3ZAs He certainly knows where the goal is. and loves a volley. Edited July 20, 2023 by prefabtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I really don’t like this trade. I mean, if we really sell ASM, I do expect we would go big on someone like Kvara that would be a certain starter on the left. We have Gordon and Joelinton as cover for this position and why add another player that probably just similar to Gordon’s level? I would even prefer to just let Gordon start and buy an expensive right winger like Diaby. sorry guys I really don’t like this trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Zero said: I really don’t like this trade. I mean, if we really sell ASM, I do expect we would go big on someone like Kvara that would be a certain starter on the left. We have Gordon and Joelinton as cover for this position and why add another player that probably just similar to Gordon’s level? I would even prefer to just let Gordon start and buy an expensive right winger like Diaby. sorry guys I really don’t like this trade. If we were just getting Barnes then I'd see your point, sort of, I mean we're trading a player that's barely on the pitch, for someone that will be on the pitch and scores goals. There's no arguement really though because selling ASM gives us more spending power, and this will inevitably lead to more strength in the team across the pitch. I think the level of winger you're talking about is out of range right now and also doesn't make sense to blow the budget on 1 position when there's a few that need upgrades. If you want us to win games, Barnes is the type of player we need, because theres nothing as important as putting that ball in the net, fuck every other stat, dribbling, take ons etc etc, if you can consistently score you're invaluable. Edited July 20, 2023 by BonesJones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I think finishing in the top 4 and the wealth of our owners has warped some perception of what a good signing looks like for us. We are still a way of from competing with the 'top 6' in terms of fees and wages. We are operating in more of the Villa/West Ham type territory really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Those cost £100 million each. Fair. But it's still kind of "meh" isn't it? 3 minutes ago, Jaqen said: I think finishing in the top 4 and the wealth of our owners has warped some perception of what a good signing looks like for us. We are still a way of from competing with the 'top 6' in terms of fees and wages. We are operating in more of the Villa/West Ham type territory really. I don't think that's true. Tonali, Botman, Bruno & Isak are the type of players the elite were looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Zero said: I would even prefer to just let Gordon start and buy an expensive right winger like Diaby. sorry guys I really don’t like this trade. No guarantee that Diaby would be better than Barnes. Personally, I don't watch much Bundesliga and all I know about Diaby is that he's highly regarded and expensive. Can't say I was especially impressed with his highlight vids. Looked really slight. Neither Diaby or Barnes is especially known for tracking back or defending from the front, but I could see Barnes adapting. Not so confident about Diaby. His defending is incredibly weak. And Barnes has proven he can score in the Premier League. With Diaby we just don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: If we weren’t selling Maxi I’m sure everyone would be very excited. It’s a very good signing. Maxi barely played last year and we did ok. Good signing, and has goals and assists to add to the team that got us 4th. Excited to see him grow with EH and the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Nobody said: I really rate Barnes, but also completely underwhelmed by the signing. Think it comes down to rating ASM (and Maddison as well Tbf) higher. Barnes over Madison for me. I think Bruno can be our Madison if allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, gazza ladra said: I was thinking a LB would free up Burn to play CB. If either Botman or Schär go down for an extended period, we could have serious trouble. Targett? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, gazza ladra said: No guarantee that Diaby would be better than Barnes. Personally, I don't watch much Bundesliga and all I know about Diaby is that he's highly regarded and expensive. Can't say I was especially impressed with his highlight vids. Looked really slight. Neither Diaby or Barnes is especially known for tracking back or defending from the front, but I could see Barnes adapting. Not so confident about Diaby. His defending is incredibly weak. And Barnes has proven he can score in the Premier League. With Diaby we just don't know. You know what? I don’t rate Diaby that high too. That’s why I HATE this trade. I would even prefer to risk someone with higher ceiling on a position that we need upgrades, rather than spending on someone that cannot massively improve our starting eleven AND we have enough covers on left wing. Probably even Maddison would be a better choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Love reading all the football coaches opinions on here mind . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Disco said: Thinking about this in a more abstract way he’s basically a far, far better version of Fraser isn’t he? Doesn’t have a trick as such but runs about loads, one touch and pass/cross/hit, wants to get in behind loads. Framing it like that makes more sense as to why Howe wants him. Do think swapping him for Maxi makes us a little bit more one dimensional especially against deep defences but we shall wait and see I guess. And as I’ve said RE: Gordon even if he’s shit you’re still getting most your £ back. I agree, though on ASM I actually think he had his least effective games vs deep defences. I don’t think the lad could do much when they stood off. He’s an excellent counter attacking player to have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Fair. But it's still kind of "meh" isn't it? I don't think that's true. Tonali, Botman, Bruno & Isak are the type of players the elite were looking at. Isn't "meh" the most amped you get though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, GWN said: Love reading all the football coaches opinions on here mind . Like it or loathe it. Surely that’s what football is all about ??♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I think Harvey Barnes will be an excellent signing. It'll be sad to see Maxi go but we are a club that is moving forwards and we have to be realistic with Maxi in terms of not seeing his full potential in any regularity and that's no good for a club that has aspirations of being around the top tier of competitions. I wish Maxi well and he will always have a good place in my thoughts. To sum Maxi up, he's a luxury bit part player we simply can't afford to cater to. Half a dozen games a season at the top of his game is not going to enhance what the club is trying to achieve. Harvey Barnes is a piece of a jigsaw that actually fits into Eddie Howe's puzzle without needing to hammer it home. Edited July 20, 2023 by magvicar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 here we go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jack27 said: here we go! Executes the finish from a yard out ??♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I like the fact that even though others were interested, West Ham for instance, he definitely wanted to come here above all else. Always liked Barnes, think he'll be a great addition. Plus he's another looker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Remember a year ago when people were disappointed we didn't sign Maxwell Cornet and Ismaila Sarr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I was shocked when someone said he was only 5"9 because he's physically like an ox. What he doesn't have in height, he makes up in strength and running power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lish007 said: I like the fact that even though others were interested, West Ham for instance, he definitely wanted to come here above all else. Always liked Barnes, think he'll be a great addition. Plus he's another looker! I agree! This is why I’m happy about getting Barnes, whereas Maddison didn’t seem to ever want to come here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, GWN said: Love reading all the football coaches opinions on here mind . There are actual coaches likes Bruce and Kinnear out there. This isn't one of the sports where you have to be in the game to know a thing or two, and that's what a football forum is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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