Lewis Hall

[Pata]

18 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Picking Burn at LB was daft. By all means change the formation to a 3 at CB, but having him there is inviting pressure

 

Narrator: There was no pressure.

[Pata]

10 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

So much sense that we conceded from that side and a set piece whilst having a significantly worse attack and failing to score 

 

We conceded from Burn's side from a set piece?

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

Mind I would say it’s also a bit concerning of Howe to favour Burn over Hall, who’s arguably one of the most exciting and effective left-backs in England right now. Classic Howe loyalty imo

Picked Hall over Burn virtually all season. Picks Burn over Hall for one game. “Classic Howe loyalty”.

[Pata]

4 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

Mind I would say it’s also a bit concerning of Howe to favour Burn over Hall, who’s arguably one of the most exciting and effective left-backs in England right now. Classic Howe loyalty imo

 

It was one match against the most physical side in the league and Hall just had a poor game week ago. Does everything have to be so dramatic?

[JoeyBartoon]

1 minute ago, Pata said:

 

It was one match against the most physical side in the league and Hall just had a poor game week ago. Does everything have to be so dramatic?

At the minute, yeah. Burn really struggles at left back because he offers very little going forward, and tbh that ends up hurting the team more than giving Hall the chance to compete physically.

 

Put it this way, there was no real reason for Burn to play the full 90 today. Howe could easily have brought Hall on for the last 20 minutes to give us a different attacking outlet and put Arsenal under a bit more pressure.

 

 

[Monters]

1 hour ago, Ashley17 said:

That's right, he's back for Brighton.

Thanks, may have misread the initial post but is seemed to suggest he was still missing for Brighton

[Pata]

11 minutes ago, JoeyBartoon said:

At the minute, yeah. Burn really struggles at left back because he offers very little going forward, and tbh that ends up hurting the team more than giving Hall the chance to compete physically.

 

Put it this way, there was no real reason for Burn to play the full 90 today. Howe could easily have brought Hall on for the last 20 minutes to give us a different attacking outlet and put Arsenal under a bit more pressure.

 

 

 

Aye mate, classic Howe loyalty.

[Holloway]

if Eddie wanted Burn in for his height v the set piece nonces, can't see a reason why Hall couldn't be played further ahead of him in the left am slot, try something different/ nowt to lose etc

[The College Dropout]

Thought we looked a better team with Burn in it although obviously he was a weakness himself

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 hours ago, Holloway said:

if Eddie wanted Burn in for his height v the set piece nonces, can't see a reason why Hall couldn't be played further ahead of him in the left am slot, try something different/ nowt to lose etc

There are quite a few reasons like, probably the main one being he never plays there and we’ve never planned to do it. 

[Slim]

Think Hall was due a rest 

[Pilko]

Shame he's not called Lewis Tall eh.

 

Picking Burn for his height made sense for this specific fixture, although why Hall wasn't introduced at some stage in the game I find hard to understand, we could have used his quality on the transition to get at them.

 

I expect Hall to be back in for Brighton, if he retains Burn at LB for that then there's a bit of a rabbit off.

[aussiemag]

The frustrating thing with Eddie is that when the pressure is on, rather than get creative, he reverts to using the older less talented players, who were part of a team that grinded out some results three years ago. Hall is one of our top 3 players, he needs to have a place in the side. 

[alexf]

Second half maybe less so as Arsenal tightened up and got anxious. But first half they were getting in at will down his side. He was an obvious weakness that opposition target and get success from. 

 

Just because Arsenal were poor on the day and didn't take advantage doesn't remove the fact that it gave us a weaker chance of getting a result. 

[Frankly]

Hall was average at best v Bournemouth last week and definitely looked like he was due a rest.

Yes, we sacrifice attacking talent with Dan Burn at left back but we look far tighter at the back if only because Dan is usually in position and will win any high balls down his side.

Hope he is retained for Brighton next week as even a point would be helpful at the moment.

[JoeyBartoon]

3 minutes ago, Frankly said:

Hall was average at best v Bournemouth last week and definitely looked like he was due a rest.

Yes, we sacrifice attacking talent with Dan Burn at left back but we look far tighter at the back if only because Dan is usually in position and will win any high balls down his side.

Hope he is retained for Brighton next week as even a point would be helpful at the moment.

I’d rather we were planning for next season, to be honest. Playing the likes of Burn and Murphy now doesn’t really make sense to me, neither should be anywhere near the first team at this stage. If anything, it could end up having a negative impact on Hall, because it sends the message that the manager doesn’t fully trust him.

[Kilcline]

Hall has looked knackered for a while and hasn't been at his usual levels probably since the Barcelona games, albeit his bar has been that high this season that when he's not so good it sticks out like a sore thumb as he's often been head and shoulders our best player, sometimes even when he's not had a great game himself 

[Holloway]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

There are quite a few reasons like, probably the main one being he never plays there and we’ve never planned to do it. 

He's shown enough for me that he's handy enough playing that role with the skillset he has, it's hardly out of the question. But aye I'm not a coach. I wonder where he'd prefer to play 🤔

[Zero]

Hall is due a rest but we all know / Eddie admit that he prefer Burn for a matchup against Arsenal. 
 

Imagine you are Hall. Was believed to be a world class LB after the Barca game and then dropped against Arsenal for “tactical reason”

 

 

Edited April 26 by Zero

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 minutes ago, Holloway said:

He's shown enough for me that he's handy enough playing that role with the skillset he has, it's hardly out of the question. But aye I'm not a coach. I wonder where he'd prefer to play 🤔

Nah I know, I mean I might try it too. But I try not to hold a real manager with results pressure on his shoulders to the same standards of everything a fan could speculate about trying. 

[Holloway]

17 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Nah I know, I mean I might try it too. But I try not to hold a real manager with results pressure on his shoulders to the same standards of everything a fan could speculate about trying. 

We'll see. I don't think he'll remain at LB for the rest of his career

[LFEE]

29 minutes ago, Zero said:

Hall is due a rest but we all know / Eddie admit that he prefer Burn for a matchup against Arsenal. 
 

Imagine you are Hall. Was believed to be a world class LB after the Barca game and then dropped against Arsenal for “tactical reason”

 

 

 

He’s not world class though. So the fault lies with those that think that.

 

He was average against Sunderland and looked fatigued against Bournemouth and a yard if not more off it.

 

Was definitely due a game out the team. Fans want more rotation and different tactics then complain when they get them in a game it made sense to apply.

[TRon]

16 minutes ago, LFEE said:

He’s not world class though. So the fault lies with those that think that.

 

He was average against Sunderland and looked fatigued against Bournemouth and a yard if not more off it.

 

Was definitely due a game out the team. Fans want more rotation and different tactics then complain when they get them in a game it made sense to apply.

 

 

We are playing one game a week now though, rotation was needed earlier in the season when we were playing two. 

 

Not that I have a problem with it, I'm just hoping there isn't more discontent behind the scenes with another player looking at the exit door. 

[Andy]

19 minutes ago, LFEE said:

He’s not world class though. So the fault lies with those that think that.

 

He was average against Sunderland and looked fatigued against Bournemouth and a yard if not more off it.

 

Was definitely due a game out the team. Fans want more rotation and different tactics then complain when they get them in a game it made sense to apply.

 

I don't think fans are referring to going back to the Dan Burn left back tactic when they ask for a change, to be fair. Even if it wasn't horrible yesterday and he did a job, surely anyone can see how much it inhibits us as an attacking force?

[Hovagod]

If he is world class or not is semantics really. The pertinent question is should he have been dropped. I would say that no of course he fucking should not have been.