Lewis Hall

[jonny1403]

2 hours ago, Zero said:

Fucking hell. So we let go a youth international midfielder to Chelsea for nothing, good enough to sit on their bench, and then agreed to pay Chelsea 28m for a similar player that the manager has no interest or no trust to play even when we are having injury crisis

 

Jesus fucking christ

I don't think sitting on Chelsea's bench is any indication of quality like. You (and 99% of Newcastle fans) have absolutely no idea how good he is and whether it was a good decision to let him go.

 

The Chelsea fans were similarly fuming last summer when we signed Hall ffs 

[NWMag]

8 hours ago, Menace said:

Our FFP means we're not really in a position to pay £28-£35m for a player who "will come good" We need players that can make a difference now. The fact that he's not been getting a sniff all season shows he's way off what we're expecting from him/

 

This is a very baffling transfer.

This season is a loan, so the fee doesn’t kick in until the summer. For all we know come August he will be ready for regular first team minutes. 

[Hanshithispantz]

6 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Saliba doesn't play full-back at all.

 

Gomez, Ake, Akanji, White, Tomiyasu, Colwil.

 

I don't think that profile is that hard to find.

You've missed the point. And half of the players you've listed started as centre backs.

 

I mentioned Saliba and Akanji as the kind of profile we would probably hope to replace Burn with if we were to stay with the current system. Technically good, physical, fairly quick, and great 1v1 down the byline. The likes of Akanji and Saliba just look completely different to the vast majority of defenders.

 

There would be no point replacing Burn with someone like Tomiyasu, the rest are going to be costing over 50m.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2024 by Hanshithispantz

[SUPERTOON]

 

[Fezzle]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

 

And "further" from another appearance

[NE27]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

This has got to be money oriented surely, how could anyone be satisfied otherwise with this peculiar transfer?

 

It's felt like a big waste of time for everyone involved so far.

[TBG]

We thought we were smart making the clause 'Chelsea have to play in a cup final' to trigger the permanent signing. 

[GeordieT]

Interesting, for what I believe is the first time ever the quotes this morning would suggest it’s not guaranteed and could be appearance based?

[LFEE]

2 minutes ago, GeordieT said:

Interesting, for what I believe is the first time ever the quotes this morning would suggest it’s not guaranteed and could be appearance based?

Was it not league position based? We are two wins from safety also if based on relegation.

[Andy]

His full quote was "closer with every game", so it can't be appearance based given that he hasn't kicked a football for us since 1997. 

[SUPERTOON]

 

[SteV]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Was it not league position based? We are two wins from safety also if based on relegation.

Yeah, there was some ITK Chelsea Twitter account claiming we just had to stay up to make it permanent.

[Conjo]

He seems like such a decent lad. Really hope it clicks for him here and that the expectation from Howe when he says Hall must "work on the defensive part of his game in order to convince him to be handed more starts" isn't that he has to grow 22cm

[Turnbull2000]

Well that's a fucking whopper on our part if true. We essentially committed right away to £30 mill on an unproven teenager ffs

[The College Dropout]

33 minutes ago, GeordieT said:

Interesting, for what I believe is the first time ever the quotes this morning would suggest it’s not guaranteed and could be appearance based?

He's mentioned it before. Which didn't make sense.

 

When Hall was signed - the noise was that we had an obligation to buy him with minimal criteria and the loan element was just to balance FFP. Similar to the Wood sale - he just had to make 5 appearances.

[jackyboy]

I'm really looking forward to seeing this lad have a run of games. The Chelsea fans were gutted when he left them, many saying that he was their best player 

[Shearergol]

Probably to do with being in the match day squad rather than appearances. 
 

Hopefully he’ll come good after some pre-season games, who knows 

[wormy]

Not going to write him off until I see the club either dodge the obligation to buy or move him on ourselves once permanent. It's been a huge shame to see him not get utilised at all but it took half a season for the likes for Gordon to truly settle in to what Howe wanted and he's got a few years on Hall.

 

If he becomes permanent then fingers crossed a pre-season getting to grips with what Howe expects will allow him to push on.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2024 by wormy

[huss9]

35 minutes ago, wormy said:

Not going to write him off until I see the club either dodge the obligation to buy or move him on ourselves once permanent. It's been a huge shame to see him not get utilised at all but it took half a season for the likes for Gordon to truly settle in to what Howe wanted and he's got a few years on Hall.

 

If he becomes permanent then fingers crossed a pre-season getting to grips with what Howe expects will allow him to push on.

 

 

 

maybe Eddie already has.

jow white and mattie getting on in front of him.

[STM]

I watched Eddie's press conference and IMO he kind of implied that Halls transfer was a mistake.

[huss9]

Just now, STM said:

I watched Eddie's press conference and IMO he kind of implied that Halls transfer was a mistake.

never says anything overly positive about him.

[huss9]

granted we're not privy to what goes in training etc, but it must be devastating for the young'n, being a toon fan and thinking hes got his dream move.

he can't have been that bad in training.

maybe its more an ffp related decision.

 

 

Edited February 23, 2024 by huss9

[Gawalls]

I work with a couple of Chelsea fans and they keep saying “we’ll take him back if you don’t want him”. He seems well thought of by them. Wonder what went wrong here for him.

[Sibierski]

Even if he's not featured much (if anything meaningful at all) this season, I'm still happy we made the move to get him. I personally rate him highly, and believe there's a strong market for making more signings like him whilst we're in our position of not being a regular top 4, so can (and should) be able to play younger players more.

 

There's so much strong English talent out there, which can save so much money further down the line, and if they're not seeing a break through at the big clubs but are at us, we should be taking advantage whilst that's there. Likewise outside the top sides, the English pool is strong and rest of this decade will show that.

[Yorkie]

2 hours ago, STM said:

I watched Eddie's press conference and IMO he kind of implied that Halls transfer was a mistake.

 

Yeah, agreed. Think there was a bit of a Freudian slip in there when he said something to the effect of "not every transfer will be a success, there'll be mistakes... I'm not taking about Lewis." Well the question was about Lewis, Eddie.

 

I suspect that we're going to be stuck with him whether we like it or not so thankfully he's got an eternity ahead of him to get better. I've honestly found it to be the most tedious talking point all season. Clearly he's not good enough to be in the team but clearly he's 19. It's a problem that is only going to be solved one way or another in the future.