AC Milan 0-0 Newcastle United (19/09/23)

[Mahoneys Tache]

I recall (long time ago) watching the juve friendly when Pearce and Hamman scored with my fatha. Howey made a minor error and these two knackas started booing him and claiming he was shite on account of him being a ‘fucken mackem man.’

brilliant b

[PCW1983]

1 hour ago, jack j said:

The passion doesn't seem to spurt over in a positive way anymore though

 

Passionate fanbases stand shout and sing

Ours sit and whinge and cry on the internet

 

 

 

Top tip, avoid the internet and the whinging disappears. 
 

alternatively, focus on looking for and seeing the positives, if your using the internet as your sphere of influence then your doomed. 

[Rocker]

I don't use twitter and very, very rarely go on here to read the football stuff. It's fantastic. 

[McCormick]

I’m one of the worst for bitching in the match threads tbf. But really, if you’re not screaming expletives at your TV when one of your players cocks up, are you even a football fan?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I do find it hard to engage with the football section at the moment, being optimistic/naive by nature. 

[Collage]

2 hours ago, McCormick said:

Meh. Football fans are always reactionary, ours in particular get carried away- good or bad. Part and parcel of having a passionate fanbase.

This, pretty much. Fans were moaning during the KK and Bobby eras as well.

[pedro111]

Surely the whining and moaning on is more to do with the fact that we have barely created any decent chances to score in the last three games? So it's that frustration? The point in isolation is magnificent everyone can agree.

[The College Dropout]

Everyone is delighted at the point. Delighted by the commitment of the team for the entire 95 minutes. Last ditch tackles and blocks. That was all excellent.

 

But the general performance was bad. We conceded chances. Poor in possession. Poor in attack. If we lost 3-0 we could have no complaints. So that's what we're discussing.

 

I remember early in the 5th season under Pardew. We played badly and stole a few wins and draws. Back then we could admit, hey - we played badly but got the result. If we continue to play badly we will lose more games. But the positive results led to a great atmosphere which led to much better performances along with good results. That's what we are hoping for here.

[jack j]

14 minutes ago, PCW1983 said:

Top tip, avoid the internet and the whinging disappears. 
 

alternatively, focus on looking for and seeing the positives, if your using the internet as your sphere of influence then your doomed. 

I take the internet whinging with a pinch of salt really.

But the moans and groans are often louder than the singing inside SJP

Cant claim that to be a passionate fanbase

It's a whinging fanbase

[Stal]

1 hour ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

I recall (long time ago) watching the juve friendly when Pearce and Hamman scored with my fatha. Howey made a minor error and these two knackas started booing him and claiming he was shite on account of him being a ‘fucken mackem man.’

brilliant b

 

I do not remember this scandal.

[OCOCOL]

1 hour ago, NUFC_Chris said:

I think this is more of an ‘internet’ thing. Most people you speak to in and about the city are perfectly realistic in expectations and very happy with how things are progressing. 
 

I read about all this negativity online but I’m not seeing it. 

 

 

 

 

100% an internet thing.

[OCOCOL]

Just now, OCOCOL said:

 

100% an internet thing.

 

Yes we have whingers at home but generally our support is positive when it's needed. And some of the general trends aren't unique to Newcastle but are symptoms of the gentrification of the game and modern sensibilities imho. Whilst there were some great memories made in the 80s a lot of the matchday experience is best left there.

[Superior Acuña]

People were right moany bastards around me at St James's in the best days of Sir Bobby. The long shadow of Laurent Robert looking a bit lazy every now and again darkened any joy of breaking into the top 4 for a load of those cunts.

[FloydianMag]

https://x.com/memecastle_utd/status/1704761315711983885?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ

 

Made me smile.

[Mahoneys Tache]

1 hour ago, Stal said:

 

I do not remember this scandal.

That’ll be because you are not my dad. 

[TBG]

Think what makes it frustrating is we've just went through 14 years of "Support the team. Not the regime". 

 

I'm not saying fans weren't just as frustrated, but the likes of SackPardew/AshleyOut gave fans a focal point to air their grievances towards poor ownership and (with some exclusions) poor management, yet plenty were happy to sit on their hands and continue to accept mediocrity if it meant a piss up on a Saturday under the guise of "Support the team...." 

 

Supporting them is a different matter, but we now have a ownership that matches the ambition of the fans, and a manager who given the time has what it takes to get there, yet for some fans 14 years of rubbish was acceptable but not performing in 5 tough games isn't. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

5 minutes ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

That’ll be because you are not my dad. 

Well… to be fair all those steamy evenings in Two Ball (six ball?) Lonnen Social Club’s sex dungeon probably blurred into one through the mists of time, Super Goalie. 

[Mahoneys Tache]

2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Well… to be fair all those steamy evenings in Two Ball (six ball?) Lonnen Social Club’s sex dungeon probably blurred into one through the mists of time, Super Goalie. 

The tache is handy to hang on to. 

[SteV]

FSE Survey for those that were out there:

 

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/M6NDCHG?fbclid=PAAaawaA5QtnYQ1RuSvwN9H0d-9eoHqKskhmMTOTVwkdUhSa_oqY6dzZJhQlY_aem_AQuJbOc5FICRzG6oJRQJySDtTBAMX95vo3ozJZlPez6JCFkdGucaIooxN7G6qsmlso4

[Chicken Dancer]

What a fantastic few nights that was. By far the best experience as an NUFC, despite the metro crap after the game (it didn't actually bother me that much as had some drinks to walk with).

 

Class seeing some old faces and lads I hadn't seen for years. Was mixing with the locals loads, eating fine food and drinking lots of shite beer. Belter trip and makes all those crap days worthwhile.

 

Special shoutout to the Curva Sud. Some racket they made.

[Pata]

1 hour ago, TBG said:

Supporting them is a different matter, but we now have a ownership that matches the ambition of the fans, and a manager who given the time has what it takes to get there, yet for some fans 14 years of rubbish was acceptable but not performing in 5 tough games isn't. 

 

Are we really not allowed to say we played poorly anymore? Ashley years happened but I don't see how that 14 years is relevant to the commentary on the performances of the current team. The bar has been raised and will go even higher in future. 

 

And just to be clear, I thought the performance was alright against Man City and Liverpool was just an unlucky freak result. Brighton and Milan away are tough games but it doesn't change the fact that we were really poor in both despite the lucky point at Milan. Important 3 points against Brentford but we really struggled to create much in that game too. And to be even more clear I'm 100% behind Howe and right now hope he's here until he retires due to old age. But we were really poor against Milan.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Pata

[GEFAFWISP]

12 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Are we really not allowed to say we played poorly anymore? Ashley years happened but I don't see how that 14 years is relevant to the commentary on the performances of the current team. The bar has been raised and will go even higher in future. 

 

And just to be clear, I thought the performance was alright against Man City and Liverpool was just an unlucky freak result. Brighton and Milan away are tough games but it doesn't change the fact that we were really poor in both despite the lucky point at Milan. Important 3 points against Brentford but we really struggled to create much in that game too. And to be even more clear I'm 100% behind Howe and right now hope he's here until he retires due to old age. But we were really poor against Milan.

 

 

 

I can't speak for TBG but I would imagine the sentiment isn't directed at posters like you Pata but the relentless repeaters who spread themselves across every thread with the same tired comments ad nasuem.

[Nobody]

23 minutes ago, Pata said:

But we were really poor against Milan.

That's very harsh. It wasn't as good as we are used to under Howe, but we weren't really poor at all. Plenty of players had a really good game, we just played against a better team away. 

[Shadow Puppets]

20 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Are we really not allowed to say we played poorly anymore? Ashley years happened but I don't see how that 14 years is relevant to the commentary on the performances of the current team. The bar has been raised and will go even higher in future. 

 

And just to be clear, I thought the performance was alright against Man City and Liverpool was just an unlucky freak result. Brighton and Milan away are tough games but it doesn't change the fact that we were really poor in both despite the lucky point at Milan. Important 3 points against Brentford but we really struggled to create much in that game too. And to be even more clear I'm 100% behind Howe and right now hope he's here until he retires due to old age. But we were really poor against Milan.

 

 

 

Of course people are allowed to say we played poorly. It's the doomsday... "worrying", "Sunday's a must win else there'll be hell on", "Tonali and Bruno will never work", "Tonali was lazy" style posts that do my nut in.

 

I think so many people on this forum / Twitter forget that there's another team playing sometimes. People expecting us to go to the San Siro and impose our game effectively, not taking into account that Milan are very good (like it or not, much better than us) with tonnes of experience of these types of games, the San Siro is a fucking monstrous atmosphere, the heat etc. These are all factors in why we played the way we did in those 25 minutes in the first half.

 

Other than that, once we got a foothold in the game, we defended brilliantly and everyone put in a shift. The second half I thought was an excellent battling performance in a very difficult place to play football. Not many people go to the San Siro and get anything.

[christ]

It’s whinging without perspective or context. No one is saying that we turned it a stellar performance on Tuesday but it was our first CL game in twenty years, away from home, and against last year’s semifinalists. Those are pretty important qualifiers. Personally I wasn’t expecting Tuesday to be representative of anything. I didn’t have any expectation about what might occur because it was a complete voyage into the unknown. 
 

I said it last season and nothing so far has dissuaded me - the past year and a half are the best it’ll get, not in terms of actual success but the feeling around the club. Expectations have shifted, our ‘level’ has changed. People are no longer going to be satisfied with a perfunctory 1-0 win over a team like Brentford. I’m not saying whether that’s right or wrong, but it is going to lead to some incredibly fucking tedious arguments on here. The price of success.