brummie Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Seeing people imploding after an away draw is hilarious. If it makes you feel better, some of our fans are also after, errr, an away draw at Wolves. We're 5th. Just taken 10 points from Chelsea, Wolves, Brighton and Palace. Honestly, football fans sometimes are nuts (all clubs). As i have said before, it is amazing the 'new' becomes the 'expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, brummie said: If it makes you feel better, some of our fans are also after, errr, an away draw at Wolves. We're 5th. Just taken 10 points from Chelsea, Wolves, Brighton and Palace. Honestly, football fans sometimes are nuts (all clubs). As i have said before, it is amazing the 'new' becomes the 'expected. I know..... but we're 8th and didn't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 minute ago, brummie said: If it makes you feel better, some of our fans are also after, errr, an away draw at Wolves. We're 5th. Just taken 10 points from Chelsea, Wolves, Brighton and Palace. Honestly, football fans sometimes are nuts (all clubs). As i have said before, it is amazing the 'new' becomes the 'expected. I keep saying it but I’m sure it’s an internet thing. I never meet people with some of these mental knee jerk reactions in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alberto2005 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Bit OTT, he was definitely a lot better. He kept it simple with his passing and retained it well but didn't do anything special to describe his performance as "Wonderful". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Considering the performance midweek, how many injuries we have to key players and missing (arguably) our best player this season in Gordon, an away draw at a team above us in the league is OK. Just hurts a little more when you concede so late on having had a really good chance to make it 3-1 before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just home. That Isak chance for 3-1 is living rent free in my head for the rest of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Mazzy said: Considering the performance midweek, how many injuries we have to key players and missing (arguably) our best player this season in Gordon, an away draw at a team above us in the league is OK. Just hurts a little more when you concede so late on having had a really good chance to make it 3-1 before that. Yeah in isolation if you look at Isak’s missed chance and conceding late on it’s disappointing. However given how West Ham are playing and our injuries a point away is solid particularly given it was always going to be hard following on from PSG. If we’d had Joelinton, Gordon, Willock, Botman, Barnes or even 3 of that lot available we probably win more comfortably but certainly see the game out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 If it helps, Liverpool had a golden chance to make it 3-1 away at Brighton and drew 2-2 after going a goal behind and making it 2-1 only wasn't quite as late in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah in isolation if you look at Isak’s missed chance and conceding late on it’s disappointing. However given how West Ham are playing and our injuries a point away is solid particularly given it was always going to be hard following on from PSG. If we’d had Joelinton, Gordon, Willock, Botman, Barnes or even 3 of that lot available we probably win more comfortably but certainly see the game out. It's Gordon and Joelinton that are the biggest misses in this game by far. They are so much more aggressive in the press and alway seem to be able to get that recovery run back in. Anderson and Tonali in hindsight should've come off around 75/80 minutes as both of them really struggled to get back and defend for their equaliser. But with injuries it's difficult to see who could've come on aside from maybe Hall or Ritchie for Anderson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Thought the 5 or so minute spell late in the first-half where he switched Isak and Anderson was interesting and just helped us get a bit of control on the game going into the second-half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Usual mantra pour moi. Win your home games, draw your aways and you'll not be far from the glory. Absolutely feel that Isak not putting the 3rd in then conceding is a kick in the nuts but hey fucking ho, that's soccerball 😎 Bigger picture on the game? They scored from their 1st effort. Lascelles went over to the right, Tripps got back and told him to fill the, vacant, RB space which he started to then hesitated. Fatally. I think Pope, tho he got sent for a Chronicle in the process, may have been in two minds. Perhaps mired by his failure to come and command that chip from Zaire-Emery v PSG, mais non? Bruno should've been off Their equaliser was poor tracking back. Both Anderson AND Longstaff. Tonali tried to get across but his block wasn't the best 😂 Commentators mentioning our "extra days rest" but I guarantee Wednesday's game will have taken way more, physically and emotionally, out of our lot than a Thursday away trip to Frieburg. Take the break, get the bodies repaired, crack on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: I think he's confusing Tonali with Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Hard for some people to give Tonali any credit. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah in isolation if you look at Isak’s missed chance and conceding late on it’s disappointing. However given how West Ham are playing and our injuries a point away is solid particularly given it was always going to be hard following on from PSG. If we’d had Joelinton, Gordon, Willock, Botman, Barnes or even 3 of that lot available we probably win more comfortably but certainly see the game out. Yeah, I'd agree with that. We're down to the bare bones. Anderson did well, despite being played further forward than I think is best. Bruno was superb - best I've seen him play this season. Incidentally, I was stuck with the West Ham fans and I thought their support was lousy. The place was like a graveyard until they scored. Then they were giving it large until we went ahead, and then they just got angry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Hard for some people to give Tonali any credit. Weird. 'Weird' is the idea that Tonali's second half performance was 'wonderful'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Cronky said: Yeah, I'd agree with that. We're down to the bare bones. Anderson did well, despite being played further forward than I think is best. Bruno was superb - best I've seen him play this season. Incidentally, I was stuck with the West Ham fans and I thought their support was lousy. The place was like a graveyard until they scored. Then they were giving it large until we went ahead, and then they just got angry. Welcome to West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 hours ago, The Prophet said: Pleased to see its not just us but, in the year 2023, you'd think megabucks clubs could afford a boom mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Alberto2005 said: Bit OTT, he was definitely a lot better. He kept it simple with his passing and retained it well but didn't do anything special to describe his performance as "Wonderful". But that’s his game and makes him the player he is - he isn’t going to dribble past 2/3 players - hit screamers from 25 yards - it’s his tactical discipline that sets him apart - it looks easy - but it isn’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cronky said: Yeah, I'd agree with that. We're down to the bare bones. Anderson did well, despite being played further forward than I think is best. Bruno was superb - best I've seen him play this season. Incidentally, I was stuck with the West Ham fans and I thought their support was lousy. The place was like a graveyard until they scored. Then they were giving it large until we went ahead, and then they just got angry. I was sat in the Bobby Moore stand behind the goal. They were proper shit and thick as fuck. Fair play to them for winning the Conference League, but if we did, I certainly wouldn’t be singing "Champions of Europe, we know what we are". Two lads behind me were asking each other why Maxi wasn’t playing.. and that he was our best player by far. Weirdest thing was that every single person in the stand was stood up the whole game and created next to no atmosphere. Didn’t have fuck all on our standing corner and probably twice the size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Cronky said: 'Weird' is the idea that Tonali's second half performance was 'wonderful'. I came in here post match expecting everyone to think the same thing as i did, that Tonali was one of our better players. So to find that most were slating his performance shocked me. On reflection, I accept he did make a few errors and he does need to stamp those out but I'm maintain his all round performance was OK. He was better than Longstaff but Longstaff has credit in the bank where as Tonali doesn't. Nobody trusts Tonali yet, heck, I didn't trust Gordon a month or so ago. He needs a run of top performances, just to shut people up and gain confidence. It might take a few month for that to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Watching the extended highlights and Tonali seemed very involved. Definitely could've dived in more for the block but he was no more at fault for that goal than at least 2 other players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I thought Tonali played a bit like Willock was playing in that period after he made the permanent move and before Eddie came along - a bit hesitant, like he wasn't sure he wanted to be here. Eddie turned the situation around and hopefully he can do the same with Tonali. Maybe there's a fitness issue as well. With Gordon, he seemed to be trying too hard and because he'd already proved himself in the Premiership, I wasn't particularly concerned. Hopefully we'll see Tonali at his best soon, but to be honest, at this stage I'm not sure what his best is going to look like, and whether it'll be enough for the Premiership. Fingers crossed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Cronky said: I thought Tonali played a bit like Willock was playing in that period after he made the permanent move and before Eddie came along - a bit hesitant, like he wasn't sure he wanted to be here. Eddie turned the situation around and hopefully he can do the same with Tonali. Maybe there's a fitness issue as well. With Gordon, he seemed to be trying too hard and because he'd already proved himself in the Premiership, I wasn't particularly concerned. Hopefully we'll see Tonali at his best soon, but to be honest, at this stage I'm not sure what his best is going to look like, and whether it'll be enough for the Premiership. Fingers crossed. Of course it will be enough for the Premier League, he's a class act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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