Hanshithispantz Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Yorkie said: The whole thing is just another example of the shitty imposition VAR is on the game. If it doesn't exist then my bet is that next to fuck all is made of the so-called controversy around that goal. A comment about the possible foul and how it could have gone the other way, and on we go. The presence of VAR energises all relevant parties to speculate, posture and demand over every possible infringement. I really would love to know what the officials feel about the job now compared to pre-VAR. To me the level of scrutiny and debate has increased a thousand-fold. It must be fucking miserable. It's ironic because I actually think this was VAR used to the best of it's current implementation. Anything they shouldn't or couldn't have an input on was ignored, and the foul, which genuinely could have went either way, stuck with the referees decision. Even at it's best it wasted 5 minutes of everyones time and has caused endless ammounts of debate I'm not even against VAR anymore, I just wish they would hurry up and get it refined to a point where it doesn't feel random. It's pointless as a tool if it's just a case of 'who is going to feel fucked over this week'? Edited November 5, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: It's ironic because I actually think this was VAR used to the best of it's current implementation. Anything they shouldn't or couldn't have an input on was ignored, and the foul, which genuinely could have went either way, stuck with the referees decision. Even at it's best it wasted 5 minutes of everyones time and has caused endoess ammounts of debate This is a solid argument for why it doesn't even need to exist, imo, not that I'm necessarily calling for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: It's ironic because I actually think this was VAR used to the best of it's current implementation. Anything they shouldn't or couldn't have an input on was ignored, and the foul, which genuinely could have went either way, stuck with the referees decision. Even at it's best it wasted 5 minutes of everyones time and has caused endoess ammounts of debate I'm not even against VAR anymore, I just wish they would hurry up and get it refined to a point where it doesn't feel random. It's pointless as a tool if it's just a case of 'who is going to feel fucked over this week'? Totally agree re being for or against. When it came in I was really annoyed it was rushed through without any consultation re the implications of it etc. But now it's been here a while I'm convinced there's a net benefit and most of the setbacks are due to human error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) I'm repeating myself, but I would be happy if I knew independent VARs were making decisions independent of each other personally. Majority vote wins. Edge cases are hard to accept and are why it all feels random to me. I would probably feel the same as the Arsenal fans regarding the push, as on another day it's called a foul, the protocol of sticking with the referees decision can feel like a coin flip. Edited November 5, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Mikel Arteta says the match officials deserve support in situations where errors occur. “They are trying to make the best decisions. We need to understand that mistakes happen.” Arteta's comment on the Diaz goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) MrDT calling us “Stoke City with money”. 🤣🤣 Also said we’re bang average. They can’t cope 🤣 Edited November 5, 2023 by Joelinton7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 14 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I might have imagined it but was there a foul by Tomiyasu in the box in the lead up to the goal? On joelinton? I thought that at the time, even watching from the leazes, I screamed pen. Strange how the VAR checks are only for the benefit of one team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Are we surprised he flipped when it didn’t go his way yet didn’t offer a single ounce of reasoning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Apparently we’re a rich Stoke City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: MrDT calling us “Stoke City with money”. 🤣🤣 Also said we’re bang average. They can’t cope 🤣 Mr Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Didn’t that lad get locked up for beating, kidnapping (+ a whole host of other charges) against his misses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, nemtizz said: Didn’t that lad get locked up for beating, kidnapping (+ a whole host of other charges) against his misses? That's the one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Mr Who? I don’t know some Arsenal fan channel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hey if folks want to believe the pound shop Atleti stuff more fool them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 That's Gabriel seconds after the goal. Complaining pointing to the corner about the ball going out. If I thought I'd been fouled that'd have been the first thing I'd be whinging to the referee about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Reading the reddit threads and all the fume is unreal. So many think Havertz tackle was fine, and they're more annoyed with Bruno. Makes the 3 points even more joyous. Can't wait till Havertz gets snapped by someone, fucking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 For what it's worth I thought Havertz was a yellow and Bruno a red. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, The Prophet said: For what it's worth I thought Havertz was a yellow and Bruno a red. Studs up into someone's shin is a red card every day of the week. It all kicked off on the back of havertz cunt of a tackle and dare I say it. The rest of the things that happenn don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: For what it's worth I thought Havertz was a yellow and Bruno a red. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Adam said: Reading the reddit threads and all the fume is unreal. So many think Havertz tackle was fine, and they're more annoyed with Bruno. Makes the 3 points even more joyous. Can't wait till Havertz gets snapped by someone, fucking prick. Reddit's pretty awful for football, especially r/soccer. Can only assume they're mostly American. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Havertz left the ground, and got some serious airtime, and he went in studs up, even if he didn't connect, it's still a terrible challenge and one that should be a red imo. Bruno's is 100% a red too, was a really silly thing to do, and he let the emotions get the better of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Has anyone seen Arsenal’s statement supporting Arteta and his comments. There is now a precedent set to criticise refereeing without any punishment. This is dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Imagine having a game cancelled because you drove the team to entirely the wrong city and it not be most embarrassing thing your club did that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Havertz apparently going for the ball here as well. He’s a proper dirty coward of a player. Referees must know this, he goes to do players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Bruno's looks bad from one angle but not as bad from another. Could've feasibly been a red or a yellow. Mad that he got nothing for it though. Edited November 5, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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