Chelsea 1-1 Newcastle United (19/12/23) Chelsea win 4-2 on penalties

[madras]

1 minute ago, 80 said:

Nah, everyone knows the FA Cup is more important and respected.

Yip. The League cup has never had the kudos of the FA Cup.

[Mountain]

2 hours ago, Beth said:

Why? So we can concentrate on qualifying for the EL? There's no way in hell in we're getting CL next season.

 

I politely disagree.

[Away Toon]

We had 22% possession against a shit Chelsea team.  That does not win you many games unless you are fantastic on the counter which we aren't. 

 

And Trippier needs dropping, Howe can call it earning a well earnt rest if he has to. We actually have quite a few options at Fullback it's time to use them.  

[GideonShandy]

We played them at home 24 days ago, had 54% possession to their 46% and beat them 4-1.

 

Our starting line-up had 7 out of the 10 outfield players who started today's game.  It was:

 

       Pope, Trippier, Lascelles (c) (Dummett 87), Schar, Livramento; Miley (Diallo 90+3), Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron (Murphy 87), Isak (Ritchie 81), Gordon (Ndiweni 90+2)

 

So this time we had Botman instead of Schar, Longstaff instead of Big Joe and Wilson instead of Isak. Otherwise the same.

 

Yet this time we had only 22% possession and were constantly on the defensive.  Obviously home advantage isn't the only factor, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

[AmericanLooneyToon]

I can understand feeling upset or angry after some of the endings to these matches but it didn't really feel like we were ready yet.

 

It was great to get the experience but the injuries and the timing of those injuries has caused us to look like a completely different team. That doesn't make it any easier but I can't wait for the next few seasons when this team is healthy and flying into these tourneys. 

 

This is just the beginning. Let's smash the mackem bitches and get ready for the upswing.

 

Lady luck fucked us this season; and not in a romantic way.

 

[Conjo]

18 minutes ago, GideonShandy said:

We played them at home 24 days ago, had 54% possession to their 46% and beat them 4-1.

 

Our starting line-up had 7 out of the 10 outfield players who started today's game.  It was:

 

       Pope, Trippier, Lascelles (c) (Dummett 87), Schar, Livramento; Miley (Diallo 90+3), Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron (Murphy 87), Isak (Ritchie 81), Gordon (Ndiweni 90+2)

 

So this time we had Botman instead of Schar, Longstaff instead of Big Joe and Wilson instead of Isak. Otherwise the same.

 

Yet this time we had only 22% possession and were constantly on the defensive.  Obviously home advantage isn't the only factor, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

 

We have played 6 games in between those two games, largely with the same players in every game with the exception of a few players being rushed back from injury due to others getting injured, while Chelsea have played 4 with a bigger squad and less injuries.

[El Prontonise]

1 hour ago, GideonShandy said:

We played them at home 24 days ago, had 54% possession to their 46% and beat them 4-1.

 

Our starting line-up had 7 out of the 10 outfield players who started today's game.  It was:

 

       Pope, Trippier, Lascelles (c) (Dummett 87), Schar, Livramento; Miley (Diallo 90+3), Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron (Murphy 87), Isak (Ritchie 81), Gordon (Ndiweni 90+2)

 

So this time we had Botman instead of Schar, Longstaff instead of Big Joe and Wilson instead of Isak. Otherwise the same.

 

Yet this time we had only 22% possession and were constantly on the defensive.  Obviously home advantage isn't the only factor, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

 

Football is never played like this.

[Pata]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I felt this way about a number of our away performances. Particularly PSG. We offered nothing to stem the tide of opposition attack. Not a tactical move. Not really a substitution move. It’s just buckle up, keep going lads and hang on in there. At the highest level of football - is that good enough?

 

I get with less injuries. The freshness probably gets us over the line more often than not. But surely we need to have a way to play on the back foot? Like actually keep the ball or be dangerous on the counter. 
 

Not sure if I posted that. 
 

The 451 let’s keep losing the ball tactic has to change. 

I was critical of the Milan and PSG away performances but this felt different as we actually defended really well and Chelsea never looked like scoring in the second half until Trippier’s mistake. It’s not nice to watch but we were gifted an early goal and nullified them well. Obviously it would be easier if we could keep some possession but once again tiredness and available players didn’t really help. Ritchie played most of the second half and I can’t really remember him completing any passes right now.

[dcmk]

2 hours ago, GideonShandy said:

We played them at home 24 days ago, had 54% possession to their 46% and beat them 4-1.

 

Our starting line-up had 7 out of the 10 outfield players who started today's game.  It was:

 

       Pope, Trippier, Lascelles (c) (Dummett 87), Schar, Livramento; Miley (Diallo 90+3), Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron (Murphy 87), Isak (Ritchie 81), Gordon (Ndiweni 90+2)

 

So this time we had Botman instead of Schar, Longstaff instead of Big Joe and Wilson instead of Isak. Otherwise the same.

 

Yet this time we had only 22% possession and were constantly on the defensive.  Obviously home advantage isn't the only factor, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

The game at SJP was immediately after the international break.

 

Allowed some of our players to get a rest.  Also allowed more preparation time.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, McDog said:

 

Tbf, same as Badiashile early in the game. We didn't threaten at all during the game. Sucks and was very unfortunate.

My logic when we failed to breakdown ten man Liverpool, if it wasn't for Alexander-arnold's howler we wouldn't have even scored, then we rage about our mistakes(s) at the end. Different type of game like, but we didn't seem to count our gift 

[Stottie]

I was amazed Bruno scored after that runup. Horrible memories of the last time.

 

Just on 10 man Liverpool, but so long as Salah is on the pitch, they have a fast-break cheat code. You cannot commit fully forward against them. Salah is why they rarely get beat with 10 men (or 11). It took an own goal to beat them when they were down to 9 at Spurs. I would dwell on that as a failing.

 

Still gutted about the result. We got gifted our goal but defended it resolutely until that blunder. We'd coped with their pressure and possession admirably. 

 

[Kanj]

Our best right back. Our captain. Our main man with a million assists who left Atletico for us has been on a low. The more I want to get mad I can’t. It’s KT. Love him forever. 

[LFEE]

Just home… Was a great cup tie. Support was excellent throughout. Arguably a fair result on balance of play similar to PSG but felt equally as cruel after all their effort.

 

Hopefully they use the disappointment in a positive way.

[PauloGeordio]

13 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Just home… Was a great cup tie. Support was excellent throughout. Arguably a fair result on balance of play similar to PSG but felt equally as cruel after all their effort.

 

Hopefully they use the disappointment in a positive way.

Let’s smash Luton 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, GideonShandy said:

We played them at home 24 days ago, had 54% possession to their 46% and beat them 4-1.

 

Our starting line-up had 7 out of the 10 outfield players who started today's game.  It was:

 

       Pope, Trippier, Lascelles (c) (Dummett 87), Schar, Livramento; Miley (Diallo 90+3), Guimaraes, Joelinton; Almiron (Murphy 87), Isak (Ritchie 81), Gordon (Ndiweni 90+2)

 

So this time we had Botman instead of Schar, Longstaff instead of Big Joe and Wilson instead of Isak. Otherwise the same.

 

Yet this time we had only 22% possession and were constantly on the defensive.  Obviously home advantage isn't the only factor, but it shouldn't make that much of a difference

 

That same group of players have also played the major of the games since then with games every 3-4 days with little rest, while Chelsea play once a week and have a huge playing squad. 

[GideonShandy]

4 hours ago, Conjo said:

 

We have played 6 games in between those two games, largely with the same players in every game with the exception of a few players being rushed back from injury due to others getting injured, while Chelsea have played 4 with a bigger squad and less injuries.

Yes, that's undoubtedly a big part of it.  But there's still been a huge gulf between the quality and style of home performances as compared with away.

[The Prophet]

9 hours ago, Ketsbaia said:

I still can't shake off my decades-long apathetic attitude towards this competition. 

 

Just felt that we'd never have beaten Liverpool anyway and, pre-match, instead of excitement it was more about being pissed off that yet another match would inevitably bring more injuries.

 

So it is what it is.

 

What's frustrating is that we played with 50% effort and still almost beat them comfortably. Not once did I believe their half-chances would go in.

 

But Kieran  

 

Not seeing that personally. The players are visibly out on their feet, some playing with injuries.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by The Prophet

[AJ9]

Another morning after another gutting defeat. This season is a right kick in the nuts at times.

[Big Geordie]

7 hours ago, Beth said:

I'm 50. Born a month before the mackems won the FA cup. Got maybe 30 years left if I'm lucky, starting to think I'll never see us win anything in my lifetime.

 

Snap -  same age as you, Beth.

[Groundhog63]

7 hours ago, Beth said:

I'm 50. Born a month before the mackems won the FA cup. Got maybe 30 years left if I'm lucky, starting to think I'll never see us win anything in my lifetime.

 

3 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

 

Snap -  same age as you, Beth.

 

I was, literally, 60 yesterday ?

Started the day in the campervan, in the Lakes, then came back early. 

Weather was supposedly going to turn hurricane....ish so the camp was closing today. Plus the pub WiFi was rank so we sacked if off and came back. 

I guess, having supported NUFC for varnigh 55 years, I'm riddled with bouncebackability ?

Our time will come and you bairns WILL see that day. 

 

 

[Bally21]

Great to wake up this morning and read some posts at the bottom of this thread that are more positive and hopeful than some of the doom from last night.

 

It's cheered me up.

 

Thanks lads.

 

HWTL.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Bally21

[Mikky]

50 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Not seeing that personally. The players are visibly out in their feet, some playing with injuries.

We’ve basically played 8 games in 24 days with the same squad - barely had a chance to rotate - no rest periods in between - prior to that we played 7 in 21 days - it’s insane - all tough matches 

 

Not had the luxury of rotating 3/4 players a game - our 2 wingers literally played all the matches - same with the full backs - centre backs - Bruno - Miley - Joe - Longstaff run into the ground - Isak strapped up and thrown on - Wilson playing consecutive  matches. 
 

We will learn from this for sure and make sure next time round we don’t suffer the same 

[Mikky]

That was our 26th match of the season - take out the internationals - around 26 matches in 3 months 

[Coffee_Johnny]

10 hours ago, duo said:

The sickening part is we gifted them the game - Chelsea didn't win it.

We gifted them fuck all. We hung on with a limp-along first team squad. Took a lead, couldn’t impose ourselves and dug in. The collective effort was, once again, outstanding. The epitome being Gordon—our best chance as an outlet to get a second, and kill the game—playing on whilst obviously hurting, after receiving a clear red card tackle.
Supremely proud of them all. We just couldn’t ride it out. Daft as it sounds, alongside how much possession Chelsea had, the number of bobbles,  loose balls and throws which didn’t go our way just put me in the mindset that this isn’t going to be our day. We’re not getting the rub of the green. 
We will obliterate teams come the run in when we’re stronger in depth. Hope it starts in the FA Cup. 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2023 by Coffee_Johnny

[samptime29]

I thought Chelsea played quite well tbh. They struggle in the final third but their passing was good. Our shape was solid, workrate was excellent. Just a shame we had no attacking subs. A 2nd goal wins it for us.