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Lloyd Kelly set to join Juventus on loan with a £20M obligation (Ornstein)


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1 hour ago, aussiemag said:

The good thing with Kelly is any sale is 100% PSR profit. So selling him for 20 mill or so. Would be far better value than selling a Harvey Barnes or a player like that. 

I'd sell them both..

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2 hours ago, aussiemag said:

The good thing with Kelly is any sale is 100% PSR profit. 


Thought that was for academy graduates only?

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32 minutes ago, Fak said:


Thought that was for academy graduates only?


He was signed on a free, so it won’t be 100% I imagine because of signing on fee etc. but it would obviously be much higher than if we paid a transfer fee.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Spurs need a centre back. Might they be interested? 

 

That's honestly a good shout.

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4 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

We won’t sell him, every club linked is broke and only wants a loan deal.

 

 

Not arsed anyway. He's only just turned 26 so he's a squad player for us at a decent age. I still reckon he's a lot better than he's performed so far. He was great in the cup win against Chelsea.

 

 

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It’s likely a complete myth that a sale would benefit PSR.

 

free transfers typically get a normal basic wage but a very high signing on fee, probably £5-10m in Kelly’s case - but the model of the signing on fee changed many years ago, it is nowadays a loyalty fee spread over the course of the contract.

 

BUT

 

If we sell we have to pay the loyalty fee off in full. So if it’s £10m and we sell for £5m we have actually made a £5m loss.

 

the only way around this is for Kelly to submit a written transfer request. I doubt we will entertain a sale unless he does this.

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28 minutes ago, James said:

It’s likely a complete myth that a sale would benefit PSR.

 

free transfers typically get a normal basic wage but a very high signing on fee, probably £5-10m in Kelly’s case - but the model of the signing on fee changed many years ago, it is nowadays a loyalty fee spread over the course of the contract.

 

BUT

 

If we sell we have to pay the loyalty fee off in full. So if it’s £10m and we sell for £5m we have actually made a £5m loss.

 

the only way around this is for Kelly to submit a written transfer request. I doubt we will entertain a sale unless he does this.

You've just made all of these numbers up though, James [emoji38]

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I guess this one really all depends on the size of the fee involved. If as rumoured a pittance then keep him. If something approaching 8 figures then you’ve got to consider it from what we’ve seen so far albeit limited.

 

He doesn’t look like a natural LB like Targett did when he returned. He offers much needed pace that our other CB’s lack but loses a notable amount of headers.

 

Maybe too early to judge him fully yet. 

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