TheBrownBottle Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Heron said: I honestly don't see the worry or clamour for RW. If we shore up our defence, we'll be fine. We scored goals for fun last season we just conceded far too many. Likewise - it is an area which could obviously be improved, but we scored more goals last season than we’d ever scored in the top flight in my lifetime. Don’t see the desperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Heron said: I honestly don't see the worry or clamour for RW. If we shore up our defence, we'll be fine. We scored goals for fun last season we just conceded far too many. The previous year we had one of best defences in the league. Same group of players. No league season is the same. If Gordon has a few more off games than he did last season for example. The RW is an issue. If Trippier isn’t going to start as many games or even be here you’ll soon see how much of an issue it’ll be. Trippier got 10 assists last season. 9 more than Almiron Edited August 26 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Likewise - it is an area which could obviously be improved, but we scored more goals last season than we’d ever scored in the top flight in my lifetime. Don’t see the desperation. Just had a look and we scored 85 - so 2.2 goals per game (rounded down). Scoring goals isn't our issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 To pinch Carlin's metaphor a bit - the transfer window is a complete and utter freak show, being a Newcastle fan gives you a front row seat. We're all watching it but we just get a closer look at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Heron said: I honestly don't see the worry or clamour for RW. If we shore up our defence, we'll be fine. We scored goals for fun last season we just conceded far too many. Think it's just the natural in-built thing with football fans to want attacking players. We definitely still need an RW like, have done for a while, but I'm okay with waiting for the right player, just so long as they are, and that the players we get the meantime vindicate Eddie's approach. He's been right up until now and I'm more than happy to trust him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, gdm said: The previous year we had one of best defences in the league. Same group of players. The RW is an issue. If Trippier isn’t going to start as many games or even be here you’ll soon see how much of an issue it’ll be. Trippier got 10 assists last season. 9 more than Almiron It's not the issue folk are making it out to be. If we add Guehi and get Schar and Botman back. We'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Danh1 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 At this point we just need a first team signing to lift the tension and give us a boost. Ideally we won’t be paying so much there we go. I hope moving forward we start shopping abroad again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 13 minutes ago, Fak said: Pardon me for not getting excited at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 As a side note, Palace are absolute whoppers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer9 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 3 hours ago, Heron said: It's not the issue folk are making it out to be. If we add Guehi and get Schar and Botman back. We'll be fine. Perhaps management is wanting to see if Eddie can get this team back into the CL with a limited schedule this year? Then they will trust him with a £100m winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: It's infuriating given how careful I have had to be reporting on anything with my latest gig, especially when we could easily fall into a defamtion suit if we aren't as careful as possible. It's all fluff when it's about sport though innit. Just makes it even funnier when Craig Hope plays the 'I'm a journalist' card when he's shit stirring, as if he's uncovered Watergate. Edited August 26 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Heron said: It's not the issue folk are making it out to be. If we add Guehi and get Schar and Botman back. We'll be fine. I respectfully disagree. Gordon had a tremendous season if he doesn’t quite hit those heights, Isak gets injured and trippier doesn’t play we won’t score as many goals. I really don’t like comparing seasons. Other clubs are strengthening (in theory) we really struggle to create on that right hand side without trippier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Here we fucking go again🙈 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I really think Pope being out for so long is the biggest factor that contributed to us being so defensively shite last season. That plus us persisting with Burn at LB in a period where he was getting rinsed by any winger with pace. We last signed a RW in 2017 and our current 2 options there will be over 30 this season and aren't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, Shearer9 said: Perhaps management is wanting to see if Eddie can get this team back into the CL with a limited schedule this year? Then they will trust him with a £100m winger. It’s more likely we’ve a set figure of cash to spend and we’ve spent £60m and another £70m is going on Guehi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Being cucked by Palace for Marc Guehi whilst teams around us have made the moves they have is a bit galling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now: We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, toon25 said: Being cucked by Palace for Marc Guehi whilst teams around us have made the moves they have is a bit galling. What sort of moves are you thinking of there? Genuine question, I haven't paid much attention beyond our own business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, midds said: Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now: We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak 100% - the whole transfer window is looking a bit of a shambles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 14 minutes ago, gdm said: I respectfully disagree. Gordon had a tremendous season if he doesn’t quite hit those heights, Isak gets injured and trippier doesn’t play we won’t score as many goals. I really don’t like comparing seasons. Other clubs are strengthening (in theory) we really struggle to create on that right hand side without trippier But ultimately, you have to compare seasons to understand where your own strengths and weaknesses are and that of others. Tactically, you won't know how other teams plan to set up etc. So that is the great unknown. Adding Guehi (or similar) allows us to move to a very solid back 3 with more advanced wing backs in Hall, Kelly (?) and Tino without even considering Trippier if we get another season out of him. Our CM is very solid, with Tonali, Bruno and Joelinton without even considering Willock or Longstaff. Willock could also be deployed on a wing and we have Barnes, Gordon and Miggy all for there too. If we get Wilson fit ( ) perhaps even Isak plays out there with Wilson centrally. We're both talking IFs and buts ultimately. Edited August 26 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, midds said: Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now: We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak And then Guehi turns out to be a bit shit. Imo he doesn't have the qualities but I won't get into that again.. Does he have the character to handle the massively inflated fee? 15 of the top 20 transfers in the PL couldn't.. far better footballers and stronger characters than fucking Guehi if I may add.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I did say it was close today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 6 minutes ago, midds said: Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now: We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak Best thing for them is fucking Palace off and signing a cheaper (and hopefully better) equivalent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 19 minutes ago, gdm said: The previous year we had one of best defences in the league. Same group of players. No league season is the same. If Gordon has a few more off games than he did last season for example. The RW is an issue. If Trippier isn’t going to start as many games or even be here you’ll soon see how much of an issue it’ll be. Trippier got 10 assists last season. 9 more than Almiron Sven Botman being injured and Pope being injured most of last season are the elephants in the room here. We still absolutely need a CB...and an RW, and a GK, and a DM. Edited August 26 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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