Marc Guehi

[Kid Icarus]

8 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

It's infuriating given how careful I have had to be reporting on anything with my latest gig, especially when we could easily fall into a defamtion suit if we aren't as careful as possible.

 

It's all fluff when it's about sport though innit. Just makes it even funnier when Craig Hope plays the 'I'm a journalist' card when he's shit stirring, as if he's uncovered Watergate.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[gdm]

Just now, Heron said:

It's not the issue folk are making it out to be. If we add Guehi and get Schar and Botman back. We'll be fine.

I respectfully disagree. Gordon had a tremendous season if he doesn’t quite hit those heights, Isak gets injured and trippier doesn’t play we won’t score as many goals. I really don’t like comparing seasons. Other clubs are strengthening (in theory) we really struggle to create on that right hand side without trippier 

[BennyBlanco]

Here we fucking go again🙈

[HaydnNUFC]

I really think Pope being out for so long is the biggest factor that contributed to us being so defensively shite last season. That plus us persisting with Burn at LB in a period where he was getting rinsed by any winger with pace.

 

We last signed a RW in 2017 and our current 2 options there will be over 30 this season and aren't good enough.

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, Shearer9 said:

Perhaps management is wanting to see if Eddie can get this team back into the CL with a limited schedule this year? Then they will trust him with a £100m winger.

It’s more likely we’ve a set figure of cash to spend and we’ve spent £60m and another £70m is going on Guehi 

[toon25]

Being cucked by Palace for Marc Guehi whilst teams around us have made the moves they have is a bit galling.

[midds]

Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now:

 

We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid

 

We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak

[Keegans Export]

3 minutes ago, toon25 said:

Being cucked by Palace for Marc Guehi whilst teams around us have made the moves they have is a bit galling.

What sort of moves are you thinking of there? Genuine question, I haven't paid much attention beyond our own business 

[duo]

1 minute ago, midds said:

Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now:

 

We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid

 

We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak

100% - the whole transfer window is looking a bit of a shambles

[Heron]

14 minutes ago, gdm said:

I respectfully disagree. Gordon had a tremendous season if he doesn’t quite hit those heights, Isak gets injured and trippier doesn’t play we won’t score as many goals. I really don’t like comparing seasons. Other clubs are strengthening (in theory) we really struggle to create on that right hand side without trippier 

But ultimately, you have to compare seasons to understand where your own strengths and weaknesses are and that of others. Tactically, you won't know how other teams plan to set up etc. So that is the great unknown.

 

Adding Guehi (or similar) allows us to move to a very solid back 3 with more advanced wing backs in Hall, Kelly (?) and Tino without even considering Trippier if we get another season out of him. Our CM is very solid, with Tonali, Bruno and Joelinton without even considering Willock or Longstaff. Willock could also be deployed on a wing and we have Barnes, Gordon and Miggy all for there too. If we get Wilson fit ( ) perhaps even Isak plays out there with Wilson centrally.

 

We're both talking IFs and buts ultimately.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Heron

[junkhead]

Just now, midds said:

Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now:

 

We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid

 

We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak

 

And then Guehi turns out to be a bit shit. Imo he doesn't have the qualities but I won't get into that again.. Does he have the character to handle the massively inflated fee? 15 of the top 20 transfers in the PL couldn't.. far better footballers and stronger characters than fucking Guehi if I may add..

 

[Gazzaschicken]

I did say it was close today

[Heron]

6 minutes ago, midds said:

Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now:

 

We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid

 

We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak

Best thing for them is fucking Palace off and signing a cheaper (and hopefully better) equivalent.

[Kid Icarus]

19 minutes ago, gdm said:

The previous year we had one of best defences in the league. Same group of players. No league season is the same. If Gordon has a few more off games than he did last season for example. The RW is an issue. If Trippier isn’t going to start as many games or even be here you’ll soon see how much of an issue it’ll be. Trippier got 10 assists last season. 9 more than Almiron 

 

Sven Botman being injured and Pope being injured most of last season are the elephants in the room here. We still absolutely need a CB...and an RW, and a GK, and a DM.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, junkhead said:

 

And then Guehi turns out to be a bit shit. Imo he doesn't have the qualities but I won't get into that again.. Does he have the character to handle the massively inflated fee? 15 of the top 20 transfers in the PL couldn't.. far better footballers and stronger characters than fucking Guehi if I may add..

 

Interesting post:

 

De Bruyne

Van Dijk

Kai Havertz (although not an elite striker, he is an exceptionally good forward for linking play)

Gvardiol

Rice

 

Are those your five picks?

[gdm]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

 

Sven Botman being injured and Pope being injured most of last season are the elephants in the room here. We still absolutely need a CB.  

I agree. We need both a CB & RW

[Doctor Zaius]

How long have they known they've wanted him? Since the end of the Euros? They should have sacked this off weeks ago and moved on elsewhere. Reckon we're gonna sign Guehi/a centre half and a right winger in the next few days? Doubtful. 

 

Difficult circumstances and all but its hard to argue against them making a hash of this window like. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, gdm said:

I agree. We need both a CB & RW

and a GK and a DM, probably in that order I reckon. Imagine last season if we also could have defended...

[J7]

8 minutes ago, midds said:

Thing is their egos are looking like they're going to be very bruised regardless of what happens now:

 

We chase him for 5 weeks and still don't land him - they look stupid

 

We eventually close the deal but we end up overpaying and caving in to Palace's demands - they look weak

Yep, that’s the way I see. Not signing him now, given there’s seemingly no other option, is worse than signing him for this ridiculous fee. 

Regardless of what happens in the remaining days, they need to be asking themselves some serious questions so that a window like this doesn’t happen again.

[Memphis]

It's been very tedious and I'm thankful it seems to be coming to an end. 

 

I think he's a very very good player and will be an excellent fit on and off the pitch, perhaps even helping Gordon get his mojo back since they're quite close.

 

I don't see the point in being mad about a 70m deal vs a 65m one or a 60m one. None of us know the specific structures or the specific wages he'll be on. The priority was finding a top-tier CB and if this goes through, we will have done that - and presumably be set for 8-10 seasons. It feels as though some people want to see him struggle just to justify their concerns about the deal or the price. It's all very silly.

[CheikBoom]

Happy with this deal if it goes through. As much as I’d love a RW, CB is absolutely the priority position currently. The back line was done so many times last season due to the lack of pace.

 

Whilst we’ve probably overpaid, we’ve got some fantastic players bought under market value in hindsight. 

[Weezertron]

23 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

I really think Pope being out for so long is the biggest factor that contributed to us being so defensively shite last season. That plus us persisting with Burn at LB in a period where he was getting rinsed by any winger with pace.

 

We last signed a RW in 2017 and our current 2 options there will be over 30 this season and aren't good enough.

And we're right back there again if Pope gets injured, which is mental. I agree it had the biggest impact last season, and we haven't fixed it. 

[Parsley]

Worth mentioning that, by digging their heels for so long, Palace have 3 days to secure a replacement if this goes through. Cutting nose to spite face comes to mind; they're also yet to replace Andersen. 

[Memphis]

15 minutes ago, duo said:

100% - the whole transfer window is looking a bit of a shambles

 

6 minutes ago, J7 said:

Regardless of what happens in the remaining days, they need to be asking themselves some serious questions so that a window like this doesn’t happen again.

 

9 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

Difficult circumstances and all but its hard to argue against them making a hash of this window like. 

 

This is all very dramatic and I don't really understand the mindset - especially with several days still left in the window. 

 

June should have made it abundantly clear that we cannot screw around with our finances. So I have no problem with an eminently qualified group of decisionmakers taking the stance that we are working with a very small pool of potential talents - and trying to do business at a very specific price point. Trying to improve significantly under those restrictions is an exceptionally challenging proposition. It feels like some of our fans think these guys are idiots and have all of a sudden forgotten how to operate in the business they've all succeeded greatly in. I do not understand it. 

[J7]

1 minute ago, Memphis said:

 

 

 

This is all very dramatic and I don't really understand the mindset - especially with several days still left in the window. 

 

June should have made it abundantly clear that we cannot screw around with our finances. So I have no problem with an eminently qualified group of decisionmakers taking the stance that we are working with a very small pool of potential talents - and trying to do business at a very specific price point. Trying to improve significantly under those restrictions is an exceptionally challenging proposition. It feels like some of our fans think these guys are idiots and have all of a sudden forgotten how to operate in the business they've all succeeded greatly in. I do not understand it. 

I don’t think they’re idiots. However the window clearly hasn’t gone to plan. Howe has said as much. We need to limit the chances of scrambling round to meet the PSR deadline again at the very least.