Marc Guehi

[Ikon]

We’ve been the drunk guy at the club trying for the same hot chick time and time again instead of accepting it’s time to leave her the fuck alone. 

[LionOfGosforth]

Been pretty clear for a while that Palace never wanted to, or needed to, sell. That we appear to have spent over a month chasing one player, knowing we needed a CB and a RW, to ultimately end up with neither. Yeah, not good like.

[madras]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Like it's one thing missing out on a player, another entirely being strung along theventire window for 1 target and still missing out. We probably just need to give them the £75-80m they want and accept Parish just has the bigger dick.

If we don't think he's worth that I'd rather bin it off and go without until another window.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

I struggle to accept that Marc Guehi is the only player in the entire world that would improve us that Howe would accept (and we can afford, given we have £70m to spend).

That’s because he isn’t but we are fixed on him for reasons which haven’t and won’t be explained. 

[TRC]

Just now, ChrisMcQuillan said:

I struggle to accept that Marc Guehi is the only player in the entire world that would improve us that Howe would accept (and we can afford, given we have £70m to spend).

Exactly right. 

 

I know people are frustrated with Mitchell, but feel like he has been given a hospital pass with this window.

[TRC]

Just now, Ikon said:

We’ve been the drunk guy at the club trying for the same hot chick time and time again instead of accepting it’s time to leave her the fuck alone. 

21 year old me feels attacked.

[gdm]

Absolutely fuckin ludicrous if we’ve no back up centre half target and we get no winger in. Absolute failure. Absolutey ridiculous and I don’t give a fuck how negative that sounds 

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

I said similar regarding what we did with Botman.  Problem is, Guehi may well have better options next year and clubs offering more money or Europe.  Also, if we have another injury crisis or if even Schar is missing for a while.  Krafth at CB is hardly ideal for a team with designs on Europe.  

 

No idea on when they expect Botman and Lascelles back.  But they'll take a good while to get up to speed, you would have thought?

Mings had the same injury as them, opening day against us last season and he still isn’t back.

[STM]

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I'm no pessemist, but the likes of Bruno, Isak and Gordon genuinely aren't going to be okay with just sitting around with us stagnating. They'll want to win things and are good enough to. 

 

I agree. I don't think we've ever had a hope in hell of keeping Isak long term.. I think a big sale is almost inevitable.

 

We don't need to sell all 3. I don't think Bruno will leave now.

 

I've always been under the assumption that we will have natural bumps in the road. This is a bump for sure. I'm just not sure it's a killer bump though.

 

I'm not saying that some criticism isn't justified. It absolutely is. I just think once the dust is settled that things won't seem as bad.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by STM

[mikejaxer]

2 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

I struggle to accept that Marc Guehi is the only player in the entire world that would improve us that Howe would accept (and we can afford, given we have £70m to spend).

Eddie Howe's Brexit Mags 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, madras said:

If we don't think he's worth that I'd rather bin it off and go without until another window.

We should have made that decision earlier though and moved on to another target.

[OoOGazOoO]

Having digested this latest development (or non-development), I think it's hugely disappointing.

 

We showed under Howe in his first season, what potential we had as a team and what could be done.

 

We then had a lower finish last year despite injuries, etc... and I think that allowed us, despite a lower finish, of just what exactly we could possibly achieve.

 

The summer window was a chance to strengthen, add that extra quality that would take us back to a 4th/5th place. I'd argue it was tweaks required rather than wholesale changes.

 

If we have dropped the ball on this summer's window, it's more than just 'a window' for me. January is notoriously bad for getting deals done and getting value for money on the whole. So in reality, a 'poor' window, is actually us potentially sticking with what we have until next summer, despite pretty much everyone acknowledging that we may fall short again if we fail to add the tweaks and extra quality, to take us that x% higher.

 

If things stay as they are, we have basically allowed our progress to essentially stagnate, which I think is pretty poor and not good enough considering where we could be.

 

Others will disagree with me, and I may look back on this post at the end of the season and be proven wrong, but this is how it feels currently.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by OoOGazOoO

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's mad by Palace though. Starve yourself of a massive payday for the sake of a few months of a player who you publicly put on the market. 

[madras]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

We should have made that decision earlier though and moved on to another target.

We couldn't if it's on the back of their other CHs injury.

[The Prophet]

Are we looking forward to the talk of this being revived tomorrow, regardless of how true it is?

[Thumbheed]

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I'm no pessemist, but the likes of Bruno, Isak and Gordon genuinely aren't going to be okay with just sitting around with us stagnating. They'll want to win things and are good enough to. 

 

We know exactly what "stagnating" as a club feels like, and this is no where near that though, not even close. 

 

As for a players leaving because of a desire to win things- there's about 5 clubs in the world that offers that appeak, and yes they poses a risk with those players being such high quality, but they'd pose that same risk if we were winning cups anyway.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It's mad by Palace though. Starve yourself of a massive payday for the sake of a few months of a player who you publicly put on the market. 

Not really, they still get a massive pay day next summer and they don’t need the money given how much selling they’ve done. 

[Theregulars]

4 minutes ago, gdm said:

Absolutely fuckin ludicrous if we’ve no back up centre half target and we get no winger in. Absolute failure. Absolutey ridiculous and I don’t give a fuck how negative that sounds 

Absolutely

[madras]

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

I'm no pessemist, but the likes of Bruno, Isak and Gordon genuinely aren't going to be okay with just sitting around with us stagnating. They'll want to win things and are good enough to. 

Well they aren't leaving this windows there are still at least a window and a bit to show them we aren't stagnating 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Thumbheed said:

 

We know exactly what "stagnating" as a club feels like, and this is no where near that though, not even close. 

 

As for a players leaving because of a desire to win things- there's about 5 clubs in the world that offers that appeak, and yes they poses a risk with those players being such high quality, but they'd pose that same risk if we were winning cups anyway.

Couldn’t disagree more like, you can still stagnate at a higher position than what we did. 
 

We are basically asking Eddie to perform miracles year on year in order for us to not stagnate which isn’t sustainable. 
 

if we are being honest, the owners haven’t actually made any difficult decisions since coming in. 

[Hanshithispantz]

3 minutes ago, madras said:

If we don't think he's worth that I'd rather bin it off and go without until another window.

If he's as good as we obviously rate him then £75-80m is probably justifiable tbf. I cannot remember us being so suicidally insistant on one player before 

[HayDen Traces]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It's mad by Palace though. Starve yourself of a massive payday for the sake of a few months of a player who you publicly put on the market. 

They never needed the money though, thats partly the frustration we didn't walk away sooner and sort an alternative.

[TRC]

2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 

We know exactly what "stagnating" as a club feels like, and this is no where near that though, not even close. 

 

As for a players leaving because of a desire to win things- there's about 5 clubs in the world that offers that appeak, and yes they poses a risk with those players being such high quality, but they'd pose that same risk if we were winning cups anyway.

Having Murphy as our possible RW is stagnation.

 

West Ham have really improved, Brighton look good. 

 

As things stand we are in for a tough season.

[Harry 209]

absolutely ludicrously ridiculously ludicrous ridiculousness  

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Thumbheed said:

 

We know exactly what "stagnating" as a club feels like, and this is no where near that though, not even close. 

 

As for a players leaving because of a desire to win things- there's about 5 clubs in the world that offers that appeak, and yes they poses a risk with those players being such high quality, but they'd pose that same risk if we were winning cups anyway.

 

That's not what stagnating means, it just means standing still. You can be standing still in 7th or 17th and doing so is going to be based on what you and the clubs around you do in the market. We've done nothing, but ultimately the point is that we have players right now that wouldn't want to stagnate in 7th and them leaving would exacerbate our situation unless we reinvested and had a 2nd phase.