Shearergol Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said: Who knows what’s gone on but it’ll eventually come out if there has been an issue. Worse case scenario Howe decides he doesn’t have enough control and does the off to England. Let’s just see how this plays out though. At least he'll get his one time wish of managing Marc Guehi then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sibierski said: I’m a big fan of Guehi, but I can accept club drawing a line at the fee getting close to £70m, as he’s not some god tier talent that’s unattainable elsewhere. Just not having no other back up options, is criminal when we’re playing Krafth ffs. Yeah as I mentioned somewhere else, they’ve stepped away from deals before when the price is too high. I have no issue with them doing that but less than 48hrs before the window ends with no obvious back up that we know of yet is ridiculous. Who knows what’s happened, was someone saying “let’s move on” the other saying “keep pushing for him” Edited August 29, 2024 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, Shearergol said: At least he'll get his one time wish of managing Marc Guehi then. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: At least he'll get his one time wish of managing Marc Guehi then. So dark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, ExiledGeordie said: Yeah as I mentioned somewhere else, they’ve stepped away from deals before when the price is too high. I have no issue with them doing that but less than 48hrs before the window ends with no obvious back up that we know of yet is ridiculous. Its even more ridiculous if it was Guehi or none. Looking at how this has been going, it makes sense.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 12 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Craig Hope… absolute bellend. Isn't it exactly Paul Mitchels job to approve other options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 1 minute ago, ATB said: Surly backing Mitchell? Cant see this work at all. Im sorry, I would replace Howe with another manager that can work worh Mitchell. Not sure Howe has what it takes anymore to be elite either. Thanks, but its time to move on. Honestly some people need to switch off and have a lie down. Yeah let’s sack the manager as he asked for a certain defender who ended up being too expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 I’d assume we’ve walked away now and will pursue another target over the next 24 hours? Or, Howe will go with what he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LFEE said: I totally get this opinion. However… Would you rather back EH & the current squad during a season without European distractions and get the RCB & RW we WANT next summer without selling Bruno/Isak/Gordon and hope we get top 4-6. Or… Would you want that RCB & RW this summer and have a greater chance of making top 4 and winning a cup you’d think BUT regardless if you do achieve it or you don’t you MUST lose two of Bruno/Isak/Gordon to pay for them albeit 12 months down the line so possibly being even worse off? That is the possible dilemma this window seems to be posing that not enough on here are understanding. Transformative can be achieved in so many ways. Don’t equate it only to spending big this window like most of you are. I personally would've rather bitten the bullet and sold just 1 of those 3, probably Gordon, and refreshed the team with the money from his sale rather than have the window we're currently having. As Isak is irreplaceable for me as is Bruno's character (and that we are incapable of winning matches without him even against the most rancid opposition). Regardless of that, we've been bidding for/chasing Guehi for the better part of a month so we have money to spend. If its true that we think Guehi and Guehi only can improve this team for £65m, it's an absolute joke. Edited August 29, 2024 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Who knows what’s gone on but it’ll eventually come out if there has been an issue. Worse case scenario Howe decides he doesn’t have enough control and does the off to England. Let’s just see how this plays out though. I’d be more confident of Howe staying than Mitchell if it was one or the other who was chopped in near future due to tensions. Howe effectively would need to be languishing mid table to be under threat, as owners not stupid IMO and know how much backing Howe has and that goes a long way to keeping eyes off ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 5 minutes ago, LFEE said: I totally get this opinion. However… Would you rather back EH & the current squad during a season without European distractions and get the RCB & RW we WANT next summer without selling Bruno/Isak/Gordon and hope we get top 4-6. Or… Would you want that RCB & RW this summer and have a greater chance of making top 4 and winning a cup you’d think BUT regardless if you do achieve it or you don’t you MUST lose two of Bruno/Isak/Gordon to pay for them albeit 12 months down the line so possibly being even worse off? That is the possible dilemma this window seems to be posing that not enough on here are understanding. Transformative can be achieved in so many ways. Don’t equate it only to spending big this window like most of you are. I think the fact our season hopes come down to whether we get one specific footballer is mental like. It’s Marc Guehi ffs not mbappe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, ATB said: Its even more ridiculous if it was Guehi or none. Looking at how this has been going, it makes sense.. Aye what a dreadful dreadful window this had been so far blimey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, WilliamPS said: Honestly some people need to switch off and have a lie down. Yeah let’s sack the manager as he asked for a certain defender who ended up being too expensive. But we cant effored buying all the players Howe want and instead he rather goes with players like Krafth. Its crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 1 minute ago, ExiledGeordie said: Aye what a dreadful dreadful window this had been so far blimey Really harsh on Odysseas Vlachodimos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, Shearergol said: Really harsh on Odysseas Vlachodimos Lost the plot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, LFEE said: I totally get this opinion. However… Would you rather back EH & the current squad during a season without European distractions and get the RCB & RW we WANT next summer without selling Bruno/Isak/Gordon and hope we get top 4-6. Or… Would you want that RCB & RW this summer and have a greater chance of making top 4 and winning a cup you’d think BUT regardless if you do achieve it or you don’t you MUST lose two of Bruno/Isak/Gordon to pay for them albeit 12 months down the line so possibly being even worse off? That is the possible dilemma this window seems to be posing that not enough on here are understanding. Transformative can be achieved in so many ways. Don’t equate it only to spending big this window like most of you are. How many transfer windows does it take to get the players we want? We've had 6 windows to get a half decent winger in and still not managed it. The RW we wanted was Michael Olise, we didn't get him. The CB we wanted was Marc Guehi, we didn't get him. Who's to say next year we won't get them again. It's embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Really harsh on Odysseas Vlachodimos 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: How many transfer windows does it take to get the players we want? We've had 6 windows to get a half decent winger in and still not managed it. The RW we wanted was Michael Olise, we didn't get him. The CB we wanted was Marc Guehi, we didn't get him. Who's to say next year we won't get them again. It's embarrassing. In previous windows we had other priorities, other targets and made other signings. We’re rebuilding a club and squad that was run on a shoestring for 15 years. It’s a disappointing window and admittedly I don’t understand what went on. But it’s not toys out of the pram territory. Edited August 29, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: In previous windows we had other priorities, other targets and made other signings. Which was a mistake then. We've needed a RW for years, it's so obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, Alberto2005 said: Who's to say next year we won't get them again. Was just about to ask this too. What if we don’t get him in January? What if Liverpool or another club come in for him next summer do we just go with no one again? football is littered with stories of missed transfers. Suck it up and move on. Also what was all that shite about Thiaw for 2 months if Guehi was top target. Which again, wouldn’t even be in the conversation had Tosin chose us. I don’t get this at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Ramos is free. Would be great for the vibe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, Alberto2005 said: Which was a mistake then. We've needed a RW for years, it's so obvious. It’s always been the top priority since the takeover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, Pixelphish said: Ramos is free. Would be great for the vibe. Hell yeah! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 To be entirely fair to Hope, I don’t think Howe being obstinate as fuck and insisting on Guehi is far from the truth. He obviously had his nose put out by Mitchell’s arrival/Staveley’s exit. You can definitely see him trying to flex his muscles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 29, 2024 Share Posted August 29, 2024 Just now, christ said: To be entirely fair to Hope, I don’t think Howe being obstinate as fuck and insisting on Guehi is far from the truth. He obviously had his nose put out by Mitchell’s arrival/Staveley’s exit. You can definitely see him trying to flex his muscles. I wish you had any evidence for this. Even if there is a change in the organisation and a difference in approaches, they’re both professionals and I would hope it’ll be resolved and come up with a joint shortlist for the future. That’s how most clubs work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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