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31 minutes ago, Parsley said:

He wasn't atrocious today. What did you think of Barnes and Murphy? 

 

I thought he was one of the worst players on the pitch. Two chances where he failed to make the keeper work, lost possession several times and his control was as wayward as usual. The only positive thing I can remember is him pouncing on a loose ball and Alderete bringing him down. 

 

Barnes was crap and I thought Murphy was slightly better than Elanga. Decent effort on goal and produced a decent cross that we failed to get on the end of. Difference is, Barnes has produced this season and although Murphy offers little these days, he is capable of flashes of quality. 

 

Elanga has 'looked a little better' recently by virtue of not being absolutely shocking. He's still not remotely good enough though and frankly a baffling signing. 

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Context is important when you hear people praise Elanga, myself included. When we say things like "he's starting to look a lot better" "had a decent game today" etc remember that it's all relative to what we've seen from him. Elanga having a good game means he doesn't look like a competition winner whose never touched a ball before

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Elanga was dreadful today. Murphy was even worse somehow when he came on mind.


He constantly loses the ball or gives it away, often in dangerous positions. His attempt where he hit the side netting was poor and he should have done better.

 

The amount of times someone has gone to play the ball to him, only to see him run in an opposite direction is scandalous. He just doesn’t have an intelligent football brain or understands what the plan his team mates have.

 

He was never going to be a good signing, his is the worse by a mile this summer as it was so obvious he was nowhere near what we need. If Wissa had played as often as Elanga has, would he possibly look slightly better than we’ve seen too?

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8 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I thought he was one of the worst players on the pitch. Two chances where he failed to make the keeper work, lost possession several times and his control was as wayward as usual. The only positive thing I can remember is him pouncing on a loose ball and Alderete bringing him down. 

 

Barnes was crap and I thought Murphy was slightly better than Elanga. Decent effort on goal and produced a decent cross that we failed to get on the end of. Difference is, Barnes has produced this season and although Murphy offers little these days, he is capable of flashes of quality. 

 

Elanga has 'looked a little better' recently by virtue of not being absolutely shocking. He's still not remotely good enough though and frankly a baffling signing. 

Fair enough. 

 

I thought he started poorly but grew into the game - was linking well with Gordon and coming inside to good effect towards the end of the first half. The header was a half-chance - I wouldn't have expected many in the squad to hit the target from that distance. The second - he should've gone for the far post admittedly but worked the space well enough. 

 

I agree that Elanga has been a poor signing to date but I find the rush to have a pop to him on this occasion, as if he's one of the primary culprits, when we've defended diabolically and looked hopeless in midfield, pretty strange. He wasn't even on the pitch for our worst spell of the game. 

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I remember being criticised for accusing him of just being a sprinter when we were first reported to be signing him in the summer. But he really hasn't done anything to change my opinion, in fact he's been far worse than I thought he would be.

 

I thought at least he would be a pressing monster like Gordon and would put some good crosses in. But he's not even been that. Just a really underwhelming and I'd even go as far as to say damaging signing. We're out of pocket £50m+ and still need a first choice right winger now for next season. 

 

Would love to think he could be "Howe'd" and suddenly turn into a useful player, but I fear the basic footballing fundamentals aren't there. 

 

Even his chance today, the rule has always been to atleast hit across the keeper if you take it on yourself to give chance to a tap in for a teammate but he went near post and didn't even hit the target. I remember him talking up his two footedness when he arrived in his interview aswell.

 

God I wish we could go back and have a do over for last summer's transfer window. 

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4 hours ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I thought he was one of the worst players on the pitch. Two chances where he failed to make the keeper work, lost possession several times and his control was as wayward as usual. The only positive thing I can remember is him pouncing on a loose ball and Alderete bringing him down. 

 

Barnes was crap and I thought Murphy was slightly better than Elanga. Decent effort on goal and produced a decent cross that we failed to get on the end of. Difference is, Barnes has produced this season and although Murphy offers little these days, he is capable of flashes of quality. 

 

Elanga has 'looked a little better' recently by virtue of not being absolutely shocking. He's still not remotely good enough though and frankly a baffling signing. 

 

Correct

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1 hour ago, alexf said:

I remember being criticised for accusing him of just being a sprinter when we were first reported to be signing him in the summer. But he really hasn't done anything to change my opinion, in fact he's been far worse than I thought he would be.

 

I thought at least he would be a pressing monster like Gordon and would put some good crosses in. But he's not even been that. Just a really underwhelming and I'd even go as far as to say damaging signing. We're out of pocket £50m+ and still need a first choice right winger now for next season. 

 

Would love to think he could be "Howe'd" and suddenly turn into a useful player, but I fear the basic footballing fundamentals aren't there. 

 

Even his chance today, the rule has always been to atleast hit across the keeper if you take it on yourself to give chance to a tap in for a teammate but he went near post and didn't even hit the target. I remember him talking up his two footedness when he arrived in his interview aswell.

 

God I wish we could go back and have a do over for last summer's transfer window. 

 

Woltemade got Howed and is now a shell of the man he used to be.

 

Same with Barnes.

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40 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

Forest must rub their hands together when we get on the phone wanting to deal with them.

We’ve got the same master negotiating skills as Howard Wilkinson when he rang Alex Ferguson to buy Denis Irwin and ended up selling Eric Cantona for a million quid

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29 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Is it just me or does Trippier hold off passing to him.

 

Maybe it's just Trippier no longer plays it down the line but there is no connection between the two of them

 

I've noticed that. Trippier still loves that ball down the touchline (see Osulas goal v Man Utd) but he's always more reluctant to play it when Elanga is in fornt of him and generally comes inside instead. 

 

Probably because he knows that if he gives it to Elanga he's going to have some defending to do very soon afterwards.

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35 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Is it just me or does Trippier hold off passing to him.

 

Maybe it's just Trippier no longer plays it down the line but there is no connection between the two of them


That’s defiantly what I’ve seen when watching live, almost as if Trippier looks down line & thinks ah fuck, turns inside & passes responsibility to someone else as knows Elanga is a waste of time 

 

Elanga is as bad as a footballer as I’ve seen “play” for us in the past 5 years, some achievement 

 

 

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Make a fuckin run instead of wanting it at your feet and hugging the line.  Use your fuckin strongest attribute.

 

Amount of times he could be in behind but fuckin stands there is infuriating. 

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The way this guy is spoken about man [emoji38]

 

Surely, you have to sack everyone that was involved in bringing him to the club if he's thought of this poorly?

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It is pretty mad watching him try to control the ball at times tbf. He seems to require way too many touches.

 

The only way to make him work is to turn him into a push and run cross merchant IMO.

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51 minutes ago, Wilson said:

Make a fuckin run instead of wanting it at your feet and hugging the line.  Use your fuckin strongest attribute.

 

Amount of times he could be in behind but fuckin stands there is infuriating. 

In Elanga's defence, our wingers often show for it short so it has to be something tactical - probably trying to draw the defender in to drop it off and then spin. But it winds me up no end too as we could just go direct, especially when we have someone that quick. Murphy does it all the time and it just kills space.

 

But to that end, Elanga has had games where he's made that run every time and we still don't pass to him, there was one game recently, I think Villa at home, where Willock has had an open pass to Elanga a handful of times after they came on and he's gone sideways to Trippier every fucking time. It's like if we don't play to the pre-rehearsed patterns our brains are going to melt or something. 

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2 hours ago, Kilcline said:

In Elanga's defence, our wingers often show for it short so it has to be something tactical - probably trying to draw the defender in to drop it off and then spin. But it winds me up no end too as we could just go direct, especially when we have someone that quick. Murphy does it all the time and it just kills space.

 

But to that end, Elanga has had games where he's made that run every time and we still don't pass to him, there was one game recently, I think Villa at home, where Willock has had an open pass to Elanga a handful of times after they came on and he's gone sideways to Trippier every fucking time. It's like if we don't play to the pre-rehearsed patterns our brains are going to melt or something. 

 

Said similar in another thread about players not taking responsibility or acting as coaches on the pitch and adapting.  It's like any autonomy and individuality has been coached out of them.

 

We were talking about it in the pub yesterday.  Modern players are like robots.  Probably one of the reasons why modern football is becoming very boring to watch.

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