Newcastle United 2-1 Tottenham Hotspur (01/09/24) | Reaction: pg 48 | Goal posts: OP

[PauloGeordio]

13 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Consensus in press and other fan forums is that we're pretty poor and been very luck so far this season. The Times match report described our points accumulation as 'unsustainable', and that Spurs ran us ragged. They twice mentions Spurs hit the woodwork, but didn't Isak as well?

  We haven't even got going yet!

[Yorkie]

Did they hit the woodwork aside from the total fluke off Longstaff, or whoever it was?

 

It's correct that our results aren't sustainable but the difference is that you'd back us to pick up rather than stay the same. 

[gbandit]

30 minutes ago, Disco said:

View From The Lane is a delicious listen in entitlement. 
 

• They’re much superior across all points
• Their defence was outstanding and should never been beaten 
• Bucktooth Brennan ruined us like Dan Levy against pensioners where he correctly removed their concessions which was adored by Spurs fans
• We’re shite aside from upfront and our midfield is atrocious

 

Looking forward to more Views From The Lane

[54]

I don't know about you guys, but i'd definitely class a defense that let an attacker be completely unmarked in the middle of the box, as well as let a simple through ball straight down the middle of the pitch completely undo them, as "Outstanding".

[RodneyCisse]

3 hours ago, Parsley said:

Actually a really nice move from back to front for the winner - not transitional at all. I also like how Tonali moves Bissouma to create the angle for Joelinton's pass - really clever. 

 

 

Madders would have hacked Joe down if he wasn’t on a yellow. Played it’s part too.

[Pixelphish]

I always think back to the Swansea game under The King. At least we won the passing etc.

 

Not quite the same but you get my point. We weren't brutalised like most are making out.

[Guest]

Starting to think Maddison is a bit of a snide cunt

[Danh1]

3 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

DJ Onedeck was much better than usual

 

Playing some acceptable tunes via that new “submit your match anthem” thing:  Fender, Lindisfarne, Journey (not my cup of tea, but a crowd pleaser)

Rattled through the half time birthdays, rather than dragging it out for ages

 

Primal Scream at full time cos we won

 

No DJ Fucking Otzi

 

For once I didn’t want to cut off my own ears with a rusty spoon

 

 

 

Agree with this. Shame about the Scousers before and after the match. Shite that. 

[Nobody]

1 hour ago, Pixelphish said:

I always think back to the Swansea game under The King. At least we won the passing etc.

 

Not quite the same but you get my point. We weren't brutalised like most are making out.

This was more 'but we won the shots taken'

[Displayname]

Having watched the highlights published by both Newcastle and Spurs i have to say that i changed my opinion. We deserved to win. Other than shots that were easy keeper food(even the one they scored at) they only had one decent chance, while we had several and should have had a penalty.

 

Lots of things to improve ofcourse, but also lots to take with us going forward with being very solid at the back and efficient in attacking.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2024 by Displayname

[gazza ladra]

They "won the passing"

 

Decent article at the Athletic about Joelinton's role in the win.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5739125/2024/09/02/joelinton-newcastle-tottenham-premier-league/?source=user_shared_article

[gbandit]

It is a huge testament to the defensive coaching that we’re keeping teams out with our current back four. Tino is class, Krafth doesn’t have a lot of experience there and it’s not his natural position, he also doesn’t have much pace. Burn has the experience but it’s different being the main man in defence. Kelly and Hall are both either new or very much in development. Our defensive shape was excellent a lot of the time at the weekend 

[Smal]

I’ve seen Burn visibly out sprint Awoniyi and Kulusevski this season. Ok these might not be quick players but Big Dan seems to have gotten faster over the summer.

[SUPERTOON]

8 minutes ago, gbandit said:

It is a huge testament to the defensive coaching that we’re keeping teams out with our current back four. Tino is class, Krafth doesn’t have a lot of experience there and it’s not his natural position, he also doesn’t have much pace. Burn has the experience but it’s different being the main man in defence. Kelly and Hall are both either new or very much in development. Our defensive shape was excellent a lot of the time at the weekend 

Completely agree, and despite talk of spurs being all over us, their only chances came from lucky deflections. They didn’t create a clear cut chance all game.

[PRL]

5 hours ago, Displayname said:

Having watched the highlights published by both Newcastle and Spurs i have to say that i changed my opinion. We deserved to win. Other than shots that were easy keeper food(even the one they scored at) they only had one decent chance, while we had several and should have had a penalty.

 

Lots of things to improve ofcourse, but also lots to take with us going forward with being very solid at the back and efficient in attacking.

 

 

 

Completely agree with this having rewatched a couple of times, particularly the 30 mins sky highlights. If it wasn’t for Nick Pope’s shovelly Joe performance then I think we would have run out comfortable winners in the end. 

[Cronky]

16 minutes ago, gazza ladra said:

They "won the passing"

 

Decent article at the Athletic about Joelinton's role in the win.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5739125/2024/09/02/joelinton-newcastle-tottenham-premier-league/?source=user_shared_article

 

That was an interesting article. Thank you for posting. It goes some way to explaining how we only conceded one goal, despite a makeshift back four. 

 

Joelinton's physical fitness, for a big man, is phenomenal. I can remember a couple of years ago, it emerged how hard he was working on this aspect of his game, privately as well as at the club. He was determined not to be the failure that we all that was his fate at one stage.

[Skeletor]

I only saw the highlights but I don't see any dominance from Spurs. I see them having a few speculative long range efforts, one of which a calamity of errors by Pope and Burn saw them get a goal. On the other hand we kept exploiting their stupid high line with very simple balls in behind. Spurs simply can't defend.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I guess for a lot of people the most memorable part of the game was the most negative part, where we made loads of mistakes and nearly fell apart. But the whole game wasn’t like that. 
 

It could’ve gone to either team really, but nobody can have complaints about us winning. We played some better stuff in spells. 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Yorkie]

10 minutes ago, Cronky said:

30 minutes ago, gazza ladra said:

They "won the passing"

 

Decent article at the Athletic about Joelinton's role in the win.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5739125/2024/09/02/joelinton-newcastle-tottenham-premier-league/?source=user_shared_article

 

That was an interesting article. Thank you for posting. It goes some way to explaining how we only conceded one goal, despite a makeshift back four. 

 

Joelinton's physical fitness, for a big man, is phenomenal. I can remember a couple of years ago, it emerged how hard he was working on this aspect of his game, privately as well as at the club. He was determined not to be the failure that we all that was his fate at one stage.

 

Yeah that's a really good write-up. It hadn't dawned on me; the similarity with the gameplan last season. It was Anderson dropping into the LWB position back in April. 

 

Joelinton is such a big player for us. For all he didn't catch the eye, there's probably a fair argument that we don't win the game without him on Sunday. 

[The Fountain]

Apparently we only won because we had better strikers and better defenders.

[Skeletor]

2 minutes ago, The Fountain said:

Apparently we only won because we had better strikers and better defenders.

 

You have to hate when you win because you have better players.

 

Also if a defence that has Krafth at CB is better than your defence and you're supposedly challenging for Europe  

[Kilcline]

30 minutes ago, Smal said:

I’ve seen Burn visibly out sprint Awoniyi and Kulusevski this season. Ok these might not be quick players but Big Dan seems to have gotten faster over the summer.

Streamlined now he's moved away from an NHS haircut.

But on a serious note, I don't recall him looking particularly "slow" at any point last season until after he came back from his injury and clearly wasn't 100%, even before then it was only very early on in games where I recall him getting skinned once or twice but once he'd sussed out how much time and space he needed he was immense. Presume everyone has also had the same analysis and we've supposedly done on Tonali to unlock an extra half a yard.

[The Prophet]

While I agree we generally limited them to speculative shots from outside the area, that miss from Odobert at the back stick was criminal.

[FloydianMag]

MSM are amazing……when Man U, Liverpool Arsenal etc aren’t playing well yet pick up points in games ‘it’s the mark of top 4/title contenders’ When we do it it’s unsustainable, and we’ll drop off sooner or later. Bunch of tossers most sports journo’s can’t see past the cartel teams.

[Coffee_Johnny]

On 02/09/2024 at 07:43, The Prophet said:

From the Athletic:

 

More worryingly, Newcastle’s passing accuracy is a lowly 74.3 per cent — the worst in the division. In the opposition half, it is just 65.6 per cent, better only than Everton’s 65.2. Against Tottenham, both figures were even lower, at 71.3 per cent and 60.8 per cent respectively.

 

Their attempted passes total of 930 is the lowest in the Premier League this season. Same for the 691 passes they have completed.

 

Without labouring the point it's the biggest area of improvement for me. Particularly with a few away games coming up. 

I wonder whether playing without Trippier and Schar has contributed towards this. We’ve been reliant on their out balls, and perhaps calming influence, to build our attacks and maintain possession for a couple of seasons. Are we still discovering, and thus far getting away with, a new system?