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Aston Villa 4-1 Newcastle United - 19/04/2025


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5 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

Man yous lot are so bipolar after a result, last week we were pushing for thr league title next season with a couple of additions

 

Found this sort of chat over the last week absolutely astonishing.

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Just now, HayDen Traces said:

6pts from this week aint bad at all. Would have taken a point today before KO but not to be.

Most teams wont leave Villa Park with much.

 

:thup: predicted us getting 5pts from those three matches and we got 6 so I'll take it.

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Great game to watch when we were still in it. Too much stuff not coming off for us, the little passes/bits of craft just not quite on it. Bruno and Joelinton not their usual selves. Isak gaging for a goal. It happens and Villa were great. Got off to a flyer and could have absolutely roasted us with a little more luck. Still third (until Monday—c’mon yee Spurs!). 

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Just now, Kid Icarus said:

:thup: predicted us getting 5pts from those three matches and we got 6 so I'll take it.

5 would have been better.

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Team selection was a tough one there, like. If the players all appeared fit to play, it's tough to change a team that's been playing so brilliantly. Think the issue was more tactical anyway, as KI says. Worth emphasising that their subs won it; they've recruited so well and Emery's getting great performances out of one or two unfancied players. Rogers in particular is absolutely superb and I thought McGinn, Kamara and Watkins were all brilliant too.

 

Painful one. The run was always gonna end at some point and I'm worried about the boss not being around to pick up the pieces. Big game next week now. 

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Strange game for us, Villa looked more up for it right from the off, and the scoreline could have been a lot worse.

Bad day at the office, put it down to experience, and move on.

Hopefully Spurs do us a little favour Monday night and Man City take a point against Villa, and we go into next Saturdays match still in 3rd, and get back on track. :clap2:

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1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

We've sold miggy and Kelly we will be active in the summer. Would you have used the summer budget to get loans who will sit on the bench?

My point is that Villa have used the transfer market to bring players in who are fresh. We haven’t, that’s the difference. Villa might just be able to have that edge in a game that is tight against a similarly talented side.

We learnt nothing from today’s game aside from what we already know. Our squad depth isn’t good enough, it isn’t good enough to bring players on towards the end of games, and it’s not good enough to turn the tide in games.

If we don’t address it in the summer, then it will get worse with us having European football next season, and some of our older members of the squad being a year older.


In the wider context I don’t think we have helped ourselves with things like Miggy being held on the bench for 6 months instead of selling him in the summer, and for giving Dubs a new contract when we should have been showing him the door and had a good offer for him. Now do I think Wilson has shown anything for the last 12-18 months of being here why he should be getting those minutes at the end of games instead of trying to give our youngster (Osula) a chance instead. I also think being 4-0 up against Crystal Palace at half time should have triggered some changes as well.

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11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

I'm not being smug - you've been on here long enough to know if we put a teamsheet out with Willock, Miley, Longstaff, Krafth, Osula on it then it would have been criticised.

Maybe it would have been? Not sure how this is relevant to anything I've said like.

 

11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

There were no suggestions to play Longstaff before the game- you know we've played the same team for 6 or 7 games in a row now, how can you have no idea about us potentially being knackered as if it was common sense that we should have rotated?

Again, none of this has anything to do with what I've said.

 

11 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Anyone suggesting we should have played Longstaff today is completely out of their mind

Again, who is saying this? He's one of 3 midfielders on the bench who could have started, and is more than capable of doing well, but he's likely behind Willock and Miley.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Tielemans is quality, mind. Brilliant signing. 

 

Emery has done a great job with him.

 

Hardly played when he first joined and looked fat and unable to get up and down the pitch.

 

But they've got him in much better shape and I can't believe how much more mobile and energetic he looks now.

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1 minute ago, St1pe said:

Not that they didn’t deserve the win but two really crucial goals at 0-0 and 2-1 came from fucking awful deflections as well. 

 

Bit like our second on Wednesday, just gotta accept them sometimes

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This was the kind of game where our predictability and game management were always going to be tested, and ultimately exposed, especially against a world-class manager like Emery.

 

You could argue the coaching staff should have anticipated this. Three games in six days with an unchanged lineup was always going to be a big ask, especially against a tactician of Emery’s calibre.

 

Players like Gordon and Willock are more than capable of starting. They bring energy and quality, and should have been trusted to rotate in from the start.

 

However, Villa simply have a stronger squad right now, so I don’t want to be too critical.  We’re pushing for Champions League places while bringing on players like Wilson and Targett, and that says a lot. If we do manage to secure a top-five finish, it’s clear we’ll need three or four top-quality additions this summer to really compete at that level.

 

All in all, we move on. A full week to regroup, reset, and go again.

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3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Maybe it would have been? Not sure how  this is relevant to anything I've said like.

 

Again, nine of this has anything to do with what I've said 

 

Again, who is saying this? He's one of 3 midfielders on the bench who could started played, and is more than capable of doing well, but he's likely behind Willock and Miley.

 

When was the last time Longstaff played well?

 

You've stated that Longstaff could have started today - you can't tell me if one of Bruno, Tonali or Joelinton were on the bench for Longstaff before the game that you and everyone else would have been happy.

 

Throwing in 3 or 4 completely out of form players against Villa away seems completely ridiculous to me

 

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. We should have rotated but the only options you're giving me are players who have been poor for a number of games

 

 

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