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Talk of their valuation being £50m for Wissa is understood to be inaccurate. It is not price that is holding up any particular deal but rather the issue of not being prepared to weaken their squad so significantly by allowing Wissa to go without an adequate replacement in the building.

 

This was as clear as day the moment Man United met the asking price for Mbeumo. I'm honestly astonished at how seemingly born yesterday our recruitment members are acting.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said:

£65m on Jackson!

 

He's not worth anywhere near that.

I think its 65 sesko and 80 Jackson 🫢🤣 who would have thought this was where we would be after the end of the season we just had.

 

 

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Just now, Kimbo said:

I’m one of the few people that actually rates Jackson, but their valuation is pure Saudi bait.

 

His finishing is far too erratic and he seems to look half arsed with his finishes, at times.  But at the same time, I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as people make out.  Not worth that much, mind.  Even though his numbers are pretty decent.

 

I also thought similar about Nunez at first.  But he hasn't improved and if anything, has got worse. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, KaKa said:

Talk of their valuation being £50m for Wissa is understood to be inaccurate. It is not price that is holding up any particular deal but rather the issue of not being prepared to weaken their squad so significantly by allowing Wissa to go without an adequate replacement in the building.

 

Wissa, who is desperate to move to Newcastle and play Champions League, is not currently training with the Brentford first team and is understood to be unhappy at the deal having stalled.

 

But negotiations have been cordial and it’s understood that Newcastle’s valuation is considered fair which leaves the door open to a deal if Brentford believe they have replacement options that will shore up their forward line ahead of the Premier League campaign.

 

It's going to be one we revist end of August surely?

 

Like sign a different striker anyway, and if worse happens and Isak goes, you then go back in for Wissa? Surely we don;t now sit back and wait it to end of August just for Wissa. Could theoretically only have Osula starting first 2 league games, or even worse, Gordon shoved up front again :D 

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Just now, nufcjmc said:

I think its 65 sesko and 80 Jackson 🫢🤣

 

 

This is why those people who think we need to capitulate to Liverpool on Isak are bending too quickly. 

 

£80m for Jackson and £120m for Isak FFS. 

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

This was as clear as day the moment Man United met the asking price for Mbeumo. I'm honestly astonished at how seemingly born yesterday our recruitment members are acting.

 

True like. I can only presume we're led entirely by targets we specifically want on our list and agents inviting interest - without ever considering the market specifics and timing that will make it very unlikely for a club willing to sell for a reasonable price.

 

Other times you're pushing at open doors with deals - and we seem to have completely lost the ability to spot when this is the case.

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Jackson is also fine if it was signing him when Chelsea did in the first place. There's now no value in it for us to sign him now. Our scouts / data must indicate there's similar profile in Europe we can sign?

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4 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

True like. I can only presume we're led entirely by targets we specifically want on our list and agents inviting interest - without ever considering the market specifics and timing that will make it very unlikely for a club willing to sell for a reasonable price.

 

Other times you're pushing at open doors with deals - and we seem to have completely lost the ability to spot when this is the case.

What are we gonna do man? :lol: How on earth did we get here.

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Still really surprised we haven't gone for Muniz tbh 

 

So am I, we were linked early in the window and a circa £25m fee was talked about. Apparently on a pittance wage-wise too.

 

I suppose before long we'll run out of Premier League strikers to throw bids at so he'll be along eventually :lol:

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9 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

His finishing is far too erratic and he seems to look half arsed with his finishes, at times.  But at the same time, I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as people make out.  Not worth that much, mind.  Even though his numbers are pretty decent.

 

I also thought similar about Nunez at first.  But he hasn't improved and if anything, has got worse. 

 

 

 

Saw an article that was saying Chelsea are basing their value off of the Ekitike deal.

 

When you actually pull up their data, which all of these clubs use, the two are not too dissimilar, with Ekitike playing in the Bundesliga and Jackson in the Premier League.

 

Jackson is seen as a poor finisher but Ekitike underperformed his expected goals to a greater degree in a "lesser" league.

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4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

What are we gonna do man? :lol: How on earth did we get here.


Along with the general need to have every transfer be a hit due to PSR is it not also that we do a nuts amount of groundwork on very specific targets and so pivoting isn’t that easy to do?

 

It’s hard to imagine Howe approving signings that haven’t been thoroughly vetted. The lengths we go to might be even deeper after the Tonali stuff.

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13 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

 

It's going to be one we revist end of August surely?

 

Like sign a different striker anyway, and if worse happens and Isak goes, you then go back in for Wissa? Surely we don;t now sit back and wait it to end of August just for Wissa. Could theoretically only have Osula starting first 2 league games, or even worse, Gordon shoved up front again :D 

Not sure we can leave it that late, unless we want Osula starting all games until then?

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2 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Saw an article that was saying Chelsea are basing their value off of the Ekitike deal.

 

When you actually pull up their data, which all of these clubs use, the two are not too dissimilar, with Ekitike playing in the Bundesliga and Jackson in the Premier League.

 

Jackson is seen as a poor finisher but Ekitike underperformed his expected goals to a greater degree in a "lesser" league.

 

 

That's why it's imperative to hold onto Isak unless we get enough money to pay over the top prices for lesser players. 

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The difference in this matter, is the player wants to come here; this has not been the issue on previous lost targets. Money will sort this one way or the other - ifwe lose this guy, all else will be reactionary and not any forward planning.

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25 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

 

It's going to be one we revist end of August surely?

 

Like sign a different striker anyway, and if worse happens and Isak goes, you then go back in for Wissa? Surely we don;t now sit back and wait it to end of August just for Wissa. Could theoretically only have Osula starting first 2 league games, or even worse, Gordon shoved up front again :D 

 

Waiting around for them to get a replacement seems a bit mad, as we would have no control over that.

 

We'd have to also be exploring other options, which appears to be the case.

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13 minutes ago, Rich said:


Along with the general need to have every transfer be a hit due to PSR is it not also that we do a nuts amount of groundwork on very specific targets and so pivoting isn’t that easy to do?

 

It’s hard to imagine Howe approving signings that haven’t been thoroughly vetted. The lengths we go to might be even deeper after the Tonali stuff.

Hard to tell, but it makes the lack of execution all the more maddening like. All that virgin groundwork only to get casually beaten to it by some chad.

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Feel quite encouraged by that update if it's true. I'm pretty sure Brentford can data mine a lad from the continent who's probably good enough to score a few goals and keep them locked in mid-table. That's the gift of having no ambition beyond financial stability.

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