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1 minute ago, OverThere said:

Given the alternatives I would start him, he's not a rookie.

 

Suspect he'll be blowing out his arse after 45 mins though with him having no pre-season.

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4 minutes ago, Menace said:

When has he ever thrown a brand new signing straight in? Knowing Howe it'll be Gordon/Barnes up top for Villa/Liverpool

Why do people continue to say this :lol: without even thinking, off top of my head Isak and Tonali. Especially Isak 

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5 minutes ago, OverThere said:

Given the alternatives I would start him, he's not a rookie.

 

Think it makes more sense to have him on the bench. Start him and we get off to a bad start we will still likely need to bring him off after 45/60mins. Better to have him on the bench to come on if needed. 

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I suspect we won’t get him in time for the game this weekend but if we sign him by this time next week I’d expect he’ll start against Liverpool.

 

Eddie tends to bed players in slowly but that’s because there are usually established starters in the position and the new guy has to earn it.

 

We currently look set to start Gordon CF, we will want him back out wide as soon as possible.

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10 minutes ago, gdm said:

Why do people continue to say this :lol: without even thinking, off top of my head Isak and Tonali. Especially Isak 

 

Think it's a bit easier to throw a striker straight in too, the role in our system is basically "press the defenders and score goals", not exactly rocket science for an established striker. 

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3 minutes ago, Shak said:

I suspect we won’t get him in time for the game this weekend but if we sign him by this time next week I’d expect he’ll start against Liverpool.

 

Eddie tends to bed players in slowly but that’s because there are usually established starters in the position and the new guy has to earn it.

 

We currently look set to start Gordon CF, we will want him back out wide as soon as possible.

 

It’s fine for me. Just think after so many troubles we only got one game thrown away. I would take that. Wissa for next week.

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32 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

It’s fine for me. Just think after so many troubles we only got one game thrown away. I would take that. Wissa for next week.

 

I'm still holding on to hope that Wissa comes in puts his packed bags in the changing room and goes straight to the pitch to play :lol: but I'll accept having a focal point for Liverpool and a hattrick for Wissa, please and thank you.

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6 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

 

I'm still holding on to hope that Wissa comes in puts his packed bags in the changing room and goes straight to the pitch to play :lol: but I'll accept having a focal point for Liverpool and a hattrick for Wissa, please and thank you.

Takes Isak's locker [emoji38] 

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55 minutes ago, gdm said:

Why do people continue to say this :lol: without even thinking, off top of my head Isak and Tonali. Especially Isak 

Exactly. Everyone seems to believe that human cunt and red team cunts get what they want. 

 

I'm 99.9% sure Isak plays (with a sour face) for us next season. Unless a big European team (not Spunkintocatspool) finds the money. And not the pitiful 120 million Drinkoutofpuddlespool think he's worth. 

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I am pretty sure IF and that is a big if Wissa signs in time for Villa he would be on the bench a lot to do with lack of game time this preseason. 

 

In Thiaw's case I think he will be a slow burn (injuries pending) into the starting line up!

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20 minutes ago, Tisd09 said:

I am pretty sure IF and that is a big if Wissa signs in time for Villa he would be on the bench a lot to do with lack of game time this preseason. 

 

In Thiaw's case I think he will be a slow burn (injuries pending) into the starting line up!

Disagree if Wissa is signed in time he gets 60 mins. It’s instantly preferable than Gordon thru the middle 

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21 minutes ago, gdm said:

Disagree if Wissa is signed in time he gets 60 mins. It’s instantly preferable than Gordon thru the middle 

 

He is obviously not going to start against Villa man... why even give yourself the hope of that?

Knowing everything you know about how we work, how Eddie needs to drill instructions into players, how we'll have been working on the gameplan for Villa all week, and how little football Wissa has played this summer... IF he signs, he'll get 15 minutes at best.

 

And that's fine and completely understandable.

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7 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

He is obviously not going to start against Villa man... why even give yourself the hope of that?

Knowing everything you know about how we work, how Eddie needs to drill instructions into players, how we'll have been working on the gameplan for Villa all week, and how little football Wissa has played this summer... IF he signs, he'll get 15 minutes at best.

 

And that's fine and completely understandable.

Eh? What you talking about giving myself hope I don’t think he’ll he signed before Villa. The dominoes won’t fall fast enough. Just saying if he does I think he’ll start. You say ‘knowing everything you know about how we work’ yet you ignore the blatant precedent twice. Wood came in straight away within days and especially Isak came in within days from a different league from a different country because we had no striker with Wilson injured. People need to wrap this myth that Howe doesn’t throw players in. He’s done it with at least 5 players. 
 

I agree Wissa lack of game time is a concern that’s why I said he gets 60 mins but to reiterate this isn’t hope as I don’t think he’ll sign by the weekend 

 

 

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Just now, gdm said:

Eh? What you talking about giving myself hope I don’t think he’ll he signed before Villa. The dominoes won’t fall fast enough. Just saying if he does I think he’ll start. You say ‘knowing everything you know about how we work’ yet you ignore the blatant precedent twice. Wood came in straight away within days and especially Isak came in within days because we had no striker with Wilson injured. People need to wrap this myth that Howe doesn’t throw players in. He’s done it with at least 5 players. 
 

I agree Wissa lack of game time is a concern that’s why I said he gets 60 mins but to reiterate this isn’t hope as I don’t think he’ll sign by the weekend 

 

As far as I'm aware he's played literally no football this summer, right? So the chance of him starting a game in the PL is near enough zero. 15-20 mins max from the bench I'd imagine.

Isak and Wood had both being playing competitively in the lead up to their moves.

And we have 1 full day of training left before the Villa game.

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5 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Once he is signed I'll be pretty relaxed. Anything else is a bonus.

 

I still think our season is going to depend on bringing Isak back into the fold if we only sign Wissa. We don't really have much choice since we can't sign an expensive elite CF without selling him (and we can't get one to join us) but I still think Wissa alone would be fairly challenging. 

 

Not to put down Wissa though, he's a great signing. 

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3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

As far as I'm aware he's played literally no football this summer, right? So the chance of him starting a game in the PL is near enough zero. 15-20 mins max from the bench I'd imagine.

Isak and Wood had both being playing competitively in the lead up to their moves.

And we have 1 full day of training left before the Villa game.

As I said his lack of game time is the only concern. I’m not buying Howe not throwing players straight in it’s a complete myth based around Bruno starting on the bench for the first couple months 

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1 minute ago, gdm said:

As I said his lack of game time is the only concern. I’m not buying Howe not throwing players straight in it’s a complete myth based around Bruno starting on the bench for the first couple months 

Bruno. Gordon. Barnes. Tino. Hall. All were eased in to one degree or another.

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