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4 minutes ago, gdm said:


i disagree I’ve never been surer than anything. Earlier today it’s reported we are planning a new bid for Wissa. If the plan is Sesko & Isak, why? 
 

and fwiw, I think you are totally right to be really really concerned. It's just the level of certainty of your statements that I have an issue with.

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47 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

I don't think we can afford Sesko, Guehi and another CM without selling Isak.

 

Sesko In and Isak Out is the only logical thing that can happen.


Not shelling out £40m on Trafford makes a big difference though

 

 

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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I fucking love us signing centre forwards - there’s nothing more exciting in football transfers than fantasising about the new no.9 smashing them in the following season

And he’ll happily wear the coveted shirt! 

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Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

Surer than anything? Oh c'mon man. And you wonder why people criticized you?

 

If there is actually a new bid for Wissa, then that is  obviously the safe bit. But as of this point, there hasn't been.

Criticise me for having an opinion? :lol: if you think different why the fuck would you care what I think? 
 

not one single person on here knows what’s happening so you are jumping down my throat coz you don’t like my opinion 

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2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Sesko to bed in for when Isak leaves next summer. Wissa in as Wilson’s replacement as a possibility.

 

 

Wissa would come in if we sell Isak to Liverpool. But I don't see that happening unless Eddie really wants him gone. I can see our owners insisting on Isak staying, plus I think that Liverpool won't stump up enough cash to even make us take it seriously. 

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1 minute ago, gdm said:

Criticise me for having an opinion? :lol: if you think different why the fuck would you care what I think? 
 

not one single person on here knows what’s happening so you are jumping down my throat coz you don’t like my opinion 

 

yeah, jumping down your throat...it's your arrogance and certainty,dude.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

and fwiw, I think you are totally right to be really really concerned. It's just the level of certainty of your statements that I have an issue with.


Why? I’m certain in my opinion. I didn’t once say factually I’m certain. Logically in my mind it’s all set up for Isak to leave. I’d absolutely love to be wrong 

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3 minutes ago, gdm said:


i disagree I’ve never been surer than anything. Earlier today it’s reported we are planning a new bid for Wissa. If the plan is Sesko & Isak, why? 
 


I understand your point. I would say there is a chance we switch to 442 this year after getting Sesko, Wissa AND retain Isak. 3 players rotating for 2 positions, same as CM (Bruno, Tonali, Joe)

 

Or else I also don’t understand why we don’t find a new CM urgently. 3 players for 3 positions there, destined for a collapse.

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4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I fucking love us signing centre forwards - there’s nothing more exciting in football transfers than fantasising about the new no.9 smashing them in the following season

 

The first is going to be a cross from the right side from Elanga and a towering header that bursts the net ... if he signs of course :laugh:

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Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

yeah, jumping down your throat...it's your arrogance and certainty,dude.

I’m far from arrogant. You don’t know me. Again you are taking offence to an opinion. We can disagree. I hope your opinion is right and mine is wrong. I wouldn’t say that if I was so arrogant 

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2 minutes ago, gdm said:


Why? I’m certain in my opinion. I didn’t once say factually I’m certain. Logically in my mind it’s all set up for Isak to leave. I’d absolutely love to be wrong 

it's how you respond to others, man, and then going to complain about people jumping down your throat. Your opinions often make quite a bit sense. It has nothing to do with how I feel about your opinion. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, madras said:

Villas is that now. What was it this time last year ?

 

Aye that was 24/5 season, 23/4 season villa was only 17 - still double ours however.  Celtic had 31 and Leipzig had 97!

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1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

The first is going to be a cross from the right side from Elanga and a towering header that bursts the net ... if he signs of course :laugh:

Leaping like a salmon and powering it harder than BDB in the cup. Net buster! 

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2 minutes ago, Zero said:


I understand your point. I would say there is a chance we switch to 442 this year after getting Sesko, Wissa AND retain Isak. 3 players rotating for 2 positions, same as CM (Bruno, Tonali, Joe)

 

Or else I also don’t understand why we don’t find a new CM urgently. 3 players for 3 positions there, destined for a collapse.

That’s fair. Just don’t know how we could afford that tho 

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Just now, gdm said:

I’m far from arrogant. You don’t know me. Again you are taking offence to an opinion. We can disagree. I hope your opinion is right and mine is wrong. I wouldn’t say that if I was so arrogant 

unfortunately, I am leaning that you are more likely right than wrong on this, especially if we are still after Wissa.

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17 minutes ago, gdm said:


and? With a view to be number one. You could argue Ramsdale will sit behind pope. 
 

Trafford will be a better keeper than Ramsdale and it’s not even close 

 

 

 


It’s kinda moot, though. We weren’t gonna sneak him past City (maybe last summer we could’ve, but not now).

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3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

it's how you respond to others, man, and then going to complain about people jumping down your throat. Your opinions often make quite a bit sense. It has nothing to do with how I feel about your opinion. 

 

 

 

If I come across that way I apologise I’m just trying to apply logic really. I’m sure the few on here I met if they remember me wouldn’t call me arrogant 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Heron said:

Feels like around a week ago folk were whinging we were showing no movement and not enough willingness to make the signings we want/wanted and we weren't doing enough to demonstrate our strength or position on Isak. We've since had the owners and the manager basically stick it to Liverpool and Isak and have lumped a massive wedge on a potential new number 9 and now it's "Ah he's not worth that" and all sorts of other negativity.

 

We may have a better 1st (or 2nd) keeper. A better 1st (or 2nd) right winger and we certainly have a better 2nd striker if we sign Sesko. So we've strengthened in 3 areas as it would stand signing Sesko.

 

If we sign Sesko, we will be selling Isak to Liverpool. If we do so, we haven't gotten anything over Liverpool or Isak at all - we have capitulated, acquiesced, to those we should be looking to topple. We won't even have acquired his true value in this market (imo, £180m plus).  The ramifications of that that are much more far-reaching - a few good signings cannot remedy it. That is why the mood remains relatively bleak. 

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2 minutes ago, Mag3.14 said:

 

Aye that was 24/5 season, 23/4 season villa was only 17 - still double ours however.  Celtic had 31 and Leipzig had 97!

How ? That many points from the conference league ? Bloody hell !

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