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15 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

I think it’s fine to rate players with the majority of the season gone, aye. Ramsey has been okay, Thiaw good (although I’m not convinced), the rest of the signings have been a disaster.


I’d ageee on Ramsey. Genuinely dunno what more Thiaw could do to convince people, though.


He put out multiple fires again yesterday, won everything he went for in the air (and found a teammate with the clearing header, as he usually does, unlike Botman and his 50p head/mistimed jumps), and was tidy in possession. If he was given more license to carry the ball through the lines, as he did on one occasion first half, it would add so much more to our play, as Schär used to do at his peak.

 

Aye, he’s made a few mistakes, as every defender does, but he’s pretty much been playing in a cosplay Eddie Howe side for a season, rather than the proper version that existed for years before it, bar a few hiccups in form here and there.

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Just now, Deuce said:

I like Ramsey, think he’s a great player to have in rotation. 

40m plus big premier league proven wages. He just isn't worth it as his output isn't enough. 

 

I think he's tidy and clearly a good player but his profile isn't one I'd attach a premium too. 

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Just now, Deuce said:

I like Ramsey, think he’s a great player to have in rotation. 

Agreed. He also knows how to run forward with the ball, which is a massive plus. 

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8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

40m plus big premier league proven wages. He just isn't worth it as his output isn't enough. 

 

I think he's tidy and clearly a good player but his profile isn't one I'd attach a premium too. 

Agreed. 
 

He’s a talented footballer. But he doesn’t do enough. For the money we needed an authoritative player.   Ramsey is like Jermaine Jenas.  Talented but a nothing player at the same time.  

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Just now, The College Dropout said:

Agreed. 
 

He’s a talented footballer. But he doesn’t do enough. For the money we needed an authoritative player.   Ramsey is like Jermaine Jenas.  Talented but a nothing player at the same time.  

Absolutely, he's a good player I don't think anyone disagrees but the output is lacking. 

 

But I do feel for him, because he's not a central midfielder in a 433 and hasn't been throughout his career. he's yet another player I look at and wonder what is the plan here?

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11 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Absolutely, he's a good player I don't think anyone disagrees but the output is lacking. 

 

But I do feel for him, because he's not a central midfielder in a 433 and hasn't been throughout his career. he's yet another player I look at and wonder what is the plan here?

But what is he?

 

To me he’s just filler. He’s never going to be a cornerstone player for a top 8 club.  Good rotation player in a few positions. Will give you 6/7 out of 10 with the odd 8.  Emery and Howe have him just right. It’s just not worth the money we’ve paid. 

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Just now, The College Dropout said:

But what is he?

 

To me he’s just filler. He’s never going to be a cornerstone player for a top 8 club.  Good rotation player in a few positions. Will give you 6/7 out of 10 with the odd 8.  Emery and Howe have him just right. It’s just not worth the money we’ve paid. 

Not sure, iirc his best run was inverting from the flanks @brummie will know better than me though. 

 

I think it's where we have a disconnect as a club though. Spending so much in fees and wages for someone to make up the numbers and then complaining about PSR is short sighted. 

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44 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

40m plus big premier league proven wages. He just isn't worth it as his output isn't enough. 

 

I think he's tidy and clearly a good player but his profile isn't one I'd attach a premium too. 


Can’t be bothered about the price tag at this point (and I don’t think it’s all that egregious for a PL-proven CM in this day and age, albeit another cause for looking abroad instead of domestically). He’s here now and a solid if underwhelming PL player.

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Rich said:


I’d ageee on Ramsey. Genuinely dunno what more Thiaw could do to convince people, though.


He put out multiple fires again yesterday, won everything he went for in the air (and found a teammate with the clearing header, as he usually does, unlike Botman and his 50p head/mistimed jumps), and was tidy in possession. If he was given more license to carry the ball through the lines, as he did on one occasion first half, it would add so much more to our play, as Schär used to do at his peak.

 

Aye, he’s made a few mistakes, as every defender does, but he’s pretty much been playing in a cosplay Eddie Howe side for a season, rather than the proper version that existed for years before it, bar a few hiccups in form here and there.

Aye, i am probably being harsh, just find it difficult to fully be convinced by him given our defensive record this season. 

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3 minutes ago, Loki679 said:

He reminds me of Anita.  Tidy player, does very little wrong but never shines through.  It's always just 'Oh, was he playing?'.

Always seems to be playing within himself. He has the skills to pick up the ball in MF and drive though the gaps but seems to settle for the safe pass.

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20 minutes ago, Loki679 said:

He reminds me of Anita.  Tidy player, does very little wrong but never shines through.  It's always just 'Oh, was he playing?'.

 

Also reminds me of Gary Speed in his first season. There have been flashes of a good player in there, he looked to be finding his feet in the matches before his sending off but that seemed to set him back. Hard to judge at the moment in a team completely lacking in confidence and form.

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18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Anita was absolutely shit. 

 

Aye. I think Ramsay has shown flashes and the potential is there if and when he gets up and running. But comparing him to Anita is an outright insult. He was awful. 

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Scandalous we paid that kind of money for a player mainly to make up the numbers. For this kind of output you pay 15m. That’s Longstaff territory.

 

There’s definitely something there. But he’ll soon be 25 years old and has played more than 150 PL games. The time for him to discover what kind of player he is or what he consistently offers to a PL club is fast disappearing.

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On 19/04/2026 at 11:10, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I’ve been disappointed in him TBH. Not sure how much is to do with his limited minutes though. 

 

Played 38 games this season.

 

I get the Anita comparison in terms of it looks like we hardly have him in midfield when he plays, there is always a big gap when being attacked and when we do attack ourselves he's nowhere to be seen also.

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