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Just now, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

 

agreed, but it's a bit different now they know he might leave.

 

go look at what they were saying when he was made permanent, and the answer is probably somewhere in between!

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1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

 

Gordon.

 

I have a similar rule but it has to have an asterix of context.

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4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

 

Bellamy the exception to the rule?

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1 minute ago, aussiemag said:


4 years younger though. 


While that’s true, he’s unlikely to be a long term solution for us and there’s no PSR profit to be made here. Plus if we’re not selling Isak this is a hell of a lot of money.

 

I’m not even opposed to signing him, he’s decent, I just think we’re going to spend the week preparing a club record bid that might not even get accepted, and even if it does might put us in a PSR hole. 

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6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

Gordon and Tonali to a degree.

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5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

Aye but not worth more than 30m smacks of "I'm living in 2006" where that was actually a lot of money.

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7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If there's one lesson that's always held firm for me over the years it's to ignore what fans of clubs are saying at your peril like. Can't think of a time it's ever wrong.

 

Everton had our pants down for Gordon, remember?

 

Brighton fans were hardly giving a ringing endorsement about Burn either.

Would have liked to have seen our comments to Forest re: Wood and Sels as well.

 

 

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20 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

Yes I know that. That's partly the point I was trying to make. How much they paid it and when they paid means fuck all. We need a striker and he is one.

Just listened to a Chelsea podcast where Matt Law, who seems to have very decent insight of matters Chelsea, is suggesting that Newcastle have stepped up interest in Jackson.

 

We only have one international loan left so that’s unlikely to be Jackson to Bayern but the word is currently that we are unlikely to loan him to you or indeed Villa ( or another club whose name isn’t being disclosed ) unless there is a very decent up front fee and a cast iron obligation. We are now hitting transfers out in this window that have easily surpassed targets but both Jackson and Nunkuku will be moved out.

 

Law is suggesting that the hierarchy at Chelsea are conflicted simply because Villa aren’t seen as much of a top 5 threat as you but on the other hand loaning him to you would mean he couldn’t play against us. Yes it really is as basic as that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Kanj said:

 

this is what i have been saying for a week now mate; I did the annoying thing of just looking at the top 5-6 leagues in europe and finding strikers within an age bracket who have scored mid-teens in the league. it was absolutely slim pickings. I don't have the knowlege or resources or time to find / look for an isak type of striker who was heralded after hitting double digts and then having a sub 10 league goal season. 

 

Can I ask a serious question.

 

Why would you do all that ? When you have the information about the players, what are you going to do with it ?

 

I can easily lose myself in an ADHD hyperfocus wormhole, but even to me, scouring Europe for data on players when you're not a football scout (I assume) feels very unusual

 

I think the 24/7 bombardment of transfer "news" during the window is really having a strange effect on people's mindset

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

I don't know like, if you hear some of our lot's views on NUFC players, you'd despair.

I think in general you gain quite a lot of insight by reading about a player from the fan base that sees them play every week.

 

But it still depends on who is saying it because every fan base has it's fair share of morons. Like with everything it's extremely contextual.

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8 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

 

Everton had our pants down for Gordon, remember?

 

Brighton fans were hardly giving a ringing endorsement about Burn either.

Would have liked to have seen our comments to Forest re: Wood and Sels as well.

 

 

 

Wood and Sels is a fair one.

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30 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Who else can we sign with a goals per 90 of .49 thats cheaper?

I hope our process is more sophisticated than league=premier_league, goals_per_90>0.48 and then just buying whoever is on that list. That said, it doesn’t seem to be.

 

 

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Ousmane Dembele is an example of a remarkable turnaround, Fernando Torres is an example of a turnaround in the opposite direction. There are all sorts of players who perform better and worse for different clubs in different systems, with different team mates in different cities and with different fans. 
 

I have no idea how that applies for Larsen as I’ve barely seen him play but fans can think a player is a complete clogger and then they’re quality elsewhere. Jacob Murphy is an example of someone who I thought wasnt close to PL standard and Eddie has crafted a player that is very limited but effective at this level in a way I never imagined 

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14 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Can I ask a serious question.

 

Why would you do all that ? When you have the information about the players, what are you going to do with it ?

 

I can easily lose myself in an ADHD hyperfocus wormhole, but even to me, scouring Europe for data on players when you're not a football scout (I assume) feels very unusual

 

I think the 24/7 bombardment of transfer "news" during the window is really having a strange effect on people's mindset

 

 

 

 

 

Haha, all good.

 

1) i was sitting at home, bored.

2) i had a theory that there aren't a lot of high scoring players in europe's top leagues

3) i was curious why it always was the same names

4) i was bored

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18 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Gordon and Tonali to a degree.

I think the Tonali consensus was that it was an overpay. I’d be inclined to agree that is still true, ie he has done well (better than I anticipated for sure) but we would probably struggle to recover our money, and certainly on inflation-adjusted terms. 

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Just now, Kanj said:

 

Haha, all good.

 

1) i was sitting at home, bored.

2) i had a theory that there aren't a lot of high scoring players in europe's top leagues

3) i was curious why it always was the same names

4) i was bored

 

:lol:

 

That's usually the chain of events that leads me to start researching tibetan nose flute music

 

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2 minutes ago, Jagten said:

 

I think the Tonali consensus was that it was an overpay. I’d be inclined to agree that is still true, ie he has done well (better than I anticipated for sure) but we would probably struggle to recover our money, and certainly on inflation-adjusted terms. 

Was plenty who said he was not the main man in their midfield. If he keeps up the level hes playing at, there will be no struggle to recover.

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