Jørgen Strand Larsen

[Shearergol]

11 minutes ago, gbandit said:

But that’s why you think about contingencies and worst case scenarios, especially when your player intimates to you that he may want to leave. Howe has said that they had conversations about it, we don’t know the detail of those but we can be confident that it should have set us up in a position where we knew we absolutely had to replace Wilson before July 

Do you think we haven’t tried? Should we have just offered £90m for Delap?

[Colos Short and Curlies]

I also think there is a world of difference in the strikers you get as a definite number 2 behind Isak and a striker to be a number 2 behind another good/very good striker.

 

No matter which way you look at it Isak wanting away has fucked our striker search, the question to the club is how real was the possibility of Isak being away back in June, that answer shapes the striker search over the summer 

[madras]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

It takes a lot for us to go the euro route. Unless it’s Thisw who we loved. 

And Ekitike and Sesko.

[relámpago blanco]

2 minutes ago, Moose said:

 

Tell those calculator shaggers that a player is worth whatever the selling club and buying agree he's worth.

 

Stats don't lie, but they seldom tell the whole story

If we can sign Premier league strikers for 26.7M who basically score 1 in 2 we should fucking sign 6 of them and sell Isak.  Loan 3 out then sell them for 50M next summer

 

 

Edited August 27, 2025 by relámpago blanco

[Rafalove]

15 minutes ago, Mattoon said:

Why do people keep saying it's our fault? Who could have foreseen so many targets go to other teams and at the same time Isak going on strike? We haven't gotten to this position for any other reason than a series of complete blind-siding events. 

 

 

It is partially. I mean it does look as though our scouting is fairly limited, which is why we’re going to have to pay over the odds. I’m not saying this lad won’t be any good, but there must be someone else available for half the price.

[duo]

£60mil    if Isak wasn't on strike we wouldn't be going anywhere near that deal. He's ruined our window.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2025 by duo

[Scoot]

If we don't buy a striker, its a complete and utter disgrace from the club. We cannot go into the rest of the season with what we have.

 

Its amateur stuff.

[gbandit]

2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Do you think we haven’t tried? Should we have just offered £90m for Delap?

I think we should have moved a lot quicker through our list of targets. Delap and Pedro were sorted early enough (and we’d have known we were behind Chelsea if we were competent) to move on quickly. We have showed zero flexibility in the market to look at players further afield. I’m talking about the second striker here, not Ekitike / Sesko. For the second striker who have we looked at? Wissa and Strand Larsen? Delap? Pedro I think could conceivably have been the Isak replacement rather than the second striker. Other teams have brought in players outside of the PL for reasonable sums and we’ll likely see them have successful seasons 
 

That’s no way to approach a window where we knew for months that we needed to sort that position and we knew there was potential that Isak could make the window painful 

[Nine]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

£60mil    if Isak wasn't on strike we wouldn't be going anywhere near that deal. He's ruined our window.

 

 

 

Hes made our position of negotiation so weak, we will be paying through the nose for whoever we end up signing now

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Question here.

 

Most people seem to think either this guy or Wissa will post high terms, maybe 20 goals in our team. So take away the name and how much is overpaying for each of them?

 

£60m for someone on their mid 20s for those goals seems pretty decent, and we'd get close to that back is 2-3 years of another approach is then taken.

 

Wissa maybe a little lower due to age, but again I'd expect to get £30-£40m from Saudi in 2-3 years so is a £20m cash hit, PSR neutral deal be the worst thing in the world?

 

Even Jackson i see holding a £60m value 

[Ikon]

I don't think he's worth anywhere near 60m. Having said that, if you're lost in the Sahara desert without water then you would pay 200 quid for a bottle of water.

 

 

Edited August 27, 2025 by Ikon

[relámpago blanco]

Just now, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Question here.

 

Most people seem to think either this guy or Wissa will post high terms, maybe 20 goals in our team. So take away the name and how much is overpaying for each of them?

 

£60m for someone on their mid 20s for those goals seems pretty decent, and we'd get close to that back is 2-3 years of another approach is then taken.

 

Wissa maybe a little lower due to age, but again I'd expect to get £30-£40m from Saudi in 2-3 years so is a £20m cash hit, PSR neutral deal be the worst thing in the world?

 

Even Jackson i see holding a £60m value 

Yeah, market is madness now.  Unless you go abroad and take a punt.  We can take one punt we need at least one striker who will do ok.  Once our squad is settled and balanced well be able to take more risky moves abroad, sign them, loan them maybe.

[Shearergol]

3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I think we should have moved a lot quicker through our list of targets. Delap and Pedro were sorted early enough (and we’d have known we were behind Chelsea if we were competent) to move on quickly. We have showed zero flexibility in the market to look at players further afield. I’m talking about the second striker here, not Ekitike / Sesko. For the second striker who have we looked at? Wissa and Strand Larsen? Delap? Pedro I think could conceivably have been the Isak replacement rather than the second striker. Other teams have brought in players outside of the PL for reasonable sums and we’ll likely see them have successful seasons 
 

That’s no way to approach a window where we knew for months that we needed to sort that position and we knew there was potential that Isak could make the window painful 

I’m still struggling to understand who we should have signed? Which are the strikers who other clubs have brought in? Should we sign the lad from Genk instead of Wolves signing him?

[huss9]

15 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

 

 

It is partially. I mean it does look as though our scouting is fairly limited, which is why we’re going to have to pay over the odds. I’m not saying this lad won’t be any good, but there must be someone else available for half the price.

we were looking for champions league level players.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

5 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said:

Yeah, market is madness now.  Unless you go abroad and take a punt.  We can take one punt we need at least one striker who will do ok.  Once our squad is settled and balanced well be able to take more risky moves abroad, sign them, loan them maybe.

 

I'm guessing that the punts we would be taking will be at a Bruno/ Botman level and not dropping £30m on a relatively unknown from Germany or the Belgian league. That's the top 6 + Villa approach.

 

How much would we be looking at for Bruno (at the profile when we bought him)? £50m probably on today's market. Isak would be £80m plus of we were buying him this year. Wilson would be £60m etc etc 

[gbandit]

3 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

I’m still struggling to understand who we should have signed? Which are the strikers who other clubs have brought in? Should we sign the lad from Genk instead of Wolves signing him?

Aye, I think we should have done that or Guessand. Either would put us in a far better position than where we are right now. We’re now over a barrel because everyone knows we don’t have a single striker we can play. I haven’t scouted players but the idea that our scouts won’t have identified potential players to go for in Europe is absurd. They just won’t go for them because we rigidly will only go for the absolute best talent (Ekitike and Sesko) that is out of the UK and who we couldn’t compete with even Man U on, or players who have played well in the league last season 

[magorific]

13 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Question here.

 

Most people seem to think either this guy or Wissa will post high terms, maybe 20 goals in our team. So take away the name and how much is overpaying for each of them?

 

£60m for someone on their mid 20s for those goals seems pretty decent, and we'd get close to that back is 2-3 years of another approach is then taken.

 

Wissa maybe a little lower due to age, but again I'd expect to get £30-£40m from Saudi in 2-3 years so is a £20m cash hit, PSR neutral deal be the worst thing in the world?

 

Even Jackson i see holding a £60m value 

Good shout, this. Even 15 league goals from each of them will be more than Isak plus Wilson/Osula last season.

[Pixelphish]

50 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Not looking great is it.

 

[Shearergol]

7 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Aye, I think we should have done that or Guessand. Either would put us in a far better position than where we are right now. We’re now over a barrel because everyone knows we don’t have a single striker we can play. I haven’t scouted players but the idea that our scouts won’t have identified potential players to go for in Europe is absurd. They just won’t go for them because we rigidly will only go for the absolute best talent (Ekitike and Sesko) that is out of the UK and who we couldn’t compete with even Man U on, or players who have played well in the league last season 

It’s on Howe then. If he doesn’t fancy a player there’s not much we can do.

[gbandit]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

It’s on Howe then. If he doesn’t fancy a player there’s not much we can do.

It’s not completely black and white though. If he has some kind of minimum expectation that he needs to reach in the league each season I can understand why we aren’t taking risks. It’s not going to be as binary as Howe only wants PL players as we’ve signed lots of players from abroad but there will be a reason why we target such a high proportion locally and some of it may be down to Howe and some may be down to other senior management / owners

[greenhill]

21 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I think we should have moved a lot quicker through our list of targets. Delap and Pedro were sorted early enough (and we’d have known we were behind Chelsea if we were competent) to move on quickly. We have showed zero flexibility in the market to look at players further afield. I’m talking about the second striker here, not Ekitike / Sesko. For the second striker who have we looked at? Wissa and Strand Larsen? Delap? Pedro I think could conceivably have been the Isak replacement rather than the second striker. Other teams have brought in players outside of the PL for reasonable sums and we’ll likely see them have successful seasons 
 

That’s no way to approach a window where we knew for months that we needed to sort that position and we knew there was potential that Isak could make the window painful 

Agree we should look at other leagues. I actually think Mikautadze from Lyon would suit us and we could get a deal done at 30-35m given Lyon's financial problems. We should at least try to bid for this kind of target.

 

Imo we should also try to bid for multiple players at the same time. If the other teams know that we are very flexible with our target, that would give us more advantage on the negotiation table. In this summer we always focus on just one single target.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

I was replying to a comment that said we could have had Pedro for that ballpark fee 

Which completely ignored the fact that he didn’t want to sign for NUFC, he wanted to sign for Chelsea 

 

So we couldn’t have had him for that ballpark fee, because he didn’t want to join us 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know I was agreeing with you, whilst also pointing out the fee was bloody similar. Maybe should’ve quoted the post you were replying to too 🤦🏻‍♂️

[Turnbull2000]

34 minutes ago, duo said:

£60mil    if Isak wasn't on strike we wouldn't be going anywhere near that deal. He's ruined our window.

 

 

 

 

This window and probably another 2 or 3 windows after this, as grossly overpaying could cripple us PSR wise. Isak's deplorable behaviour could end up costing the club many tens of millions if not more.

[Geordie Magpie]

Clearly looks like our eggs are all in the basket for JSL or Wissa.

 

Who else could we even go in for that would likely get a bid accepted? Seems a real shortage of quality strikers these days, especially ones easily attainable

[relámpago blanco]

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