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57 minutes ago, Kanj said:

All quotes coming out of Germany is incredibly stupid - regardless of how they want to cut it, from Lahm being an ex big named-pro / legend to the Bayern board members -- this is a 23 year old German kid who is their future / current #9 and potential star of their national team. He never disrespected any of those clubs or people; he's a good and honest pro and kid. Fucking lifting behavior to say that about him and put unnecessary pressure on him. Should be bigging up his move and saying this is good experience for him and hopefully he comes back to Germany and puts in great results leading up to the WC. 

 

Nagelsman:

 

“Sure, he’s scored two headers now, which was also good and important for him. I think it’s important that you make a good impression when you have such a price tag,” Nagelsmann explained. While praising Woltemade’s instinct in front of goal, the coach underlined that the striker must still integrate fully into Eddie Howe’s system. “He still has a few steps to take within the team. He still needs to find his perfect fit,” he added.

 

Eddie:

 

Howe stopped short of being dragged into a war of words with Rummenigge, but defended the club's outlay.

 

"It's irrelevant, really," the Newcastle head coach said of the comments. "The market forces dictate transfers fees – not necessarily any one club.

 

"We're very pleased to have Nick with us. I think he's started very strongly in what has been a difficult period for him because he's been thrust straight into action with no training time of note with us.

 

"He's done really well. We're really pleased to have him with us and the transfer fee is absolutely irrelevant."

 

Woltemade, 23, has not appeared to have been affected by the comments or his price tag, scoring two goals in his opening three Premier League games.

 

"He's not that type of character," Howe said. "I don't think he necessarily overthinks too much, which is a really big strength. Whatever we have paid for him is irrelevant. What he is going to be judged on is how he performs in the team and what he gives to the club going forward.

 

"I would urge any footballer to try and dust that off, but it's easier said than done. I've seen players myself be weighed down by either the fee or the expectation but he's very relaxed. He looks like he's enjoying his football, enjoying being here, and ultimately that's key."

 

 

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Mad that Woltemade has played so few minutes, been good and scored goals, and people are debating whether he fits. 
 

People just love to give opinions when there really is nothing to talk about. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Mad that Woltemade has played so few minutes, been good and scored goals, and people are debating whether he fits. 
 

People just love to give opinions when there really is nothing to talk about. 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely, weve had about 20 minutes of a game of football where we have been in a position to see him flourish (against Bradford), for the rest of the time hes been feeding off largely scraps and playing against the wind.

 

He also would have had a 3rd against Bournemouth had we got the pen.

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Isak used to stretch the field as he was often looking for a ball in behind. He was fairly ineffective when he came deep looking for the ball. With a defender up his arse he was next to useless.

Woltemade is the opposite. Looks great coming deep and can handle a defender no problem. That’s not a surprise, German defenders are hardly nimble but they’re plenty big and strong. So he’s got experience in dealing with that.

 

What we’re missing now is players stretching the field. We have 3 very quick widemen and one who has decent pace but a great shot. Will be interesting to see how we evolve and change. Either one or both the wide players get closer to him to collect the flicks from him or we need a good passing midfielder to get the ball back from him and then knock it forward or in front of the wingers. 

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6 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Isak used to stretch the field as he was often looking for a ball in behind. He was fairly ineffective when he came deep looking for the ball. With a defender up his arse he was next to useless.

Woltemade is the opposite. Looks great coming deep and can handle a defender no problem. That’s not a surprise, German defenders are hardly nimble but they’re plenty big and strong. So he’s got experience in dealing with that.

 

What we’re missing now is players stretching the field. We have 3 very quick widemen and one who has decent pace but a great shot. Will be interesting to see how we evolve and change. Either one or both the wide players get closer to him to collect the flicks from him or we need a good passing midfielder to get the ball back from him and then knock it forward or in front of the wingers. 

 

 

I think our players are struggling to adapt to this as well. Finding Woltemade is the successful part, he's holding it up brilliantly. But what follow from that is where everyone appears a bit stuck. They don't seem used to breaking beyond a front man so often and aren't hitting the spaces effectively yet. 

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17 hours ago, Kanj said:

All quotes coming out of Germany is incredibly stupid - regardless of how they want to cut it, from Lahm being an ex big named-pro / legend to the Bayern board members -- this is a 23 year old German kid who is their future / current #9 and potential star of their national team. He never disrespected any of those clubs or people; he's a good and honest pro and kid. Fucking lifting behavior to say that about him and put unnecessary pressure on him. Should be bigging up his move and saying this is good experience for him and hopefully he comes back to Germany and puts in great results leading up to the WC. 

It's a cuck nation

2 hours ago, Lotus said:

Isak used to stretch the field as he was often looking for a ball in behind. He was fairly ineffective when he came deep looking for the ball. With a defender up his arse he was next to useless.

Woltemade is the opposite. Looks great coming deep and can handle a defender no problem. That’s not a surprise, German defenders are hardly nimble but they’re plenty big and strong. So he’s got experience in dealing with that.

 

What we’re missing now is players stretching the field. We have 3 very quick widemen and one who has decent pace but a great shot. Will be interesting to see how we evolve and change. Either one or both the wide players get closer to him to collect the flicks from him or we need a good passing midfielder to get the ball back from him and then knock it forward or in front of the wingers. 

Think Isak was good when he did drop deep and off a defender but not so great at a battle. The staying right up there was tactical. People say he and Wilson weren't similar but I think the ask was similar. Typically stay right up there to stretch teams, try to get in behind. Only come deep so often.

 

Wolte is a big change in the way we play no doubt. But he's been a killer with his head when needed and plays his game well. I don't think we have the team or setup to get the best out of him and the team in a 4-3-3. A 4-4-1-1 or similar with Wissa hits.

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8 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Felt like Isak would rather find spaces to isolate defenders, you'd see him move further out wide if he was struggling to get into a game rather than drop deep.

He'd test dropping deep and see how far the centre half would come with him. If the centre half stuck to him (ie Huijsen) he'd move wide or we'd try to play balls in behind from wide to see if Isak could get the turn. If the CH didn't follow him he could be quite effective but teams started to instruct CHs to keep close.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mike said:

 

Wew pump those brakes. Tonali yes, Nick? Maybe?

Tbf to him aside from the defense (who all seem very good so far) those two are who I'm impressed by the most :lol:

 

Granted it's possible I've just caught Bruno, Joelinton and the wingers at a bad time form wise.

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6 minutes ago, Mole said:

Tbf to him aside from the defense (who all seem very good so far) those two are who I'm impressed by the most :lol:

 

Granted it's possible I've just caught Bruno, Joelinton and the wingers at a bad time form wise.

 

But S-tier? S-tier is can play in any era for any team.

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3 minutes ago, Mike said:

:lol: Ah then fair enough. I don't play about my Sandro, Kanj.

 

yah man, just some fun loving bigging up on our cool asf German striker who has literally done no wrong here - shows up happy, shows up excited, trains hard, scores a couple goals, gets punched in the face + doesnt dive, refuses to shake hands or accept the aplology of the aggressor...is starting 9 for the German national team that is in somewhat crisis mode with so claled 'best player' not doing much at Liverpool thus far and yet, somehow big Nick is the one getting pelters from 3 Bayern legends for no reason at all. 

 

 

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