Vinny Green Balls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just curious. I've watched every World Cup since 1982. It's been an integral part of my life since I was 6. And missing it will really feel like a missing chapter in a brilliant book for me. This is a huge decision. But our greatest power as individuals is probably our power of consumption...the power to choose what we buy or watch. FIFA has a history of kowtowing to thugs and monsters. And Infantino is making Blatter look small change in this area. Creating a FIFA Peace Prize just to give to this spoiled cheeseburger manifested into the shape of a human being was the last fucking straw. The U.S. is a fucking rogue state and needs to be sanctioned. FIFA rightly suspended Russia, and should do the same to the United States and Israel. Until then, fuck FIFA. We have to start wielding what power we have somewhere. Not trying to preach to anyone. Just venting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Nah, but I'm also not particularly interested. Seems like the move will be to start watching at the knockout stages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Btw there are games being played within an hour or so of my house and I didn't even consider trying to get tickets, which is pretty fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky Jim Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I won’t be watching anything…..usually couldn’t give a toss about England, International Football means nowt to me…it’s the domestic arena that far more important…add to the fact that the USA is a periah state now, i certainly will be paying little or no attention in the summer….in fact a good opportunity to find a nice rural spot in the country with no TV and WiFi and have a nice relaxing six weeks😀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Sadly my principle of 'consume any and all football I can' outweighs any principles I might have centering around morality. If there was a supremely organised movement which could legitimately provoke a meaningful and majority boycott, I would happily jump on board. Or vuvuzelas. Sadly that ship has never been in the dock, let alone sailed. Top level football is far too popular a thing for the type of people who control it not to control it. The game's gone so I'll just stick me head in the sand and enjoy the action, rather than be in - what feels like - a pointless minority taking a stand. Pending the outcome of a butchered and bloated group stage format, the World Cup will almost certainly be mint, because it always is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Yorkie said: Sadly my principle of 'consume any and all football I can' outweighs any principles I might have centering around morality. If there was a supremely organised movement which could legitimately provoke a meaningful and majority boycott, I would happily jump on board. Or vuvuzelas. Sadly that ship has never been in the dock, let alone sailed. Top level football is far too popular a thing for the type of people who control it not to control it. The game's gone so I'll just stick me head in the sand and enjoy the action, rather than be in - what feels like - a pointless minority taking a stand. Pending the outcome of a butchered and bloated group stage format, the World Cup will almost certainly be mint, because it always is. it starts with our individual actions. I'd rather be in the resistance with dire odds than being passive in the Vichy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) I support a club whose owners bought it for the purposes of sportswashing an oppressive, murderous regime. So yeah, I'll probably still watch the World Cup. Edited January 3 by Doctor Zaius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Nah, but then given the time of the games it's going to be difficult for me to keep up anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Alright I’ll say it, feels a bit hypocritical as a Newcastle supporter to take a moral stance, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 14 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: it starts with our individual actions. I'd rather be in the resistance with dire odds than being passive in the Vichy. I obviously agree wholeheartedly with that principle but it really does feel futile at this scale, without any meaningful movement behind it. I'm not even sure what difference my boycott would even make even at a micro level. I don't think we need to stray into the matter of hypothetical hypocrisy (re our owners), but there is the point that it's not just the World Cup. Football was sold to these characters ages ago and the shark has already jumped. Why would this be my tipping point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) I’ve effectively boycoutted the World Cup since 1998 as that was the last time I was remotely arsed about it. World Cups lay bare the worst excesses of a game that has been swallowed up by capitalism, corporate advertising, shady backhanders and greed. And this year in particular the last thing England needs is another reason for racists to be able to get their St George Cross flags out by latching on to a World Cup. I’m not an England supporter and I cringe at that fucking stupid brass band. And generally the fans of all nationalities in stadiums at World Cups are the very worst type of plastic gimps. And I fucking despise hearing Three Lions. That daft fucking song needs firing into the sun. TL;DR I’ll watch a few specially selected games because I love it when the camera zooms in on the honeys in the crowd wearing tiny football shirts. Edited January 3 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 with the timings of our games, I'll be asleep without a care in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I'm thinking about boycotting football in general Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 No. If I had the money I’d be in Canada getting to some games considering that I have family over there. No, I don’t like the politics and what is happening in the USA, but you can say that about the last 2/3 World Cups. You also have to remember that there is 2 other countries hosting the games as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 17 minutes ago, Collage said: Alright I’ll say it, feels a bit hypocritical as a Newcastle supporter to take a moral stance, like Agree with this. Seems like plenty on here could do it no bother. As they can’t stand International football or England and they feel the need to mention it every other week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I was planning on going and I’ve got enough ESTC caps for all our games. Unfortunately I’ve been priced out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I'm not actively boycotting but I don't feel excited about watching it. Will also be interesting to see how full the games are given the absolutely astronomical ticket prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Collage said: Alright I’ll say it, feels a bit hypocritical as a Newcastle supporter to take a moral stance, like It absolutely is, and it's been roiling in my mind for years. And you're right, it probably means that I should sacrifice my support for Newcastle as well. But I have to start somewhere. And this situation has gotten beyond the pale with the U.S. Edited January 3 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I’m not but it feels like a World Cup for corporates and rich people rather than football fans. The stadiums should be full of people passionate about the football, about their country. Not full of Tik Tok cunts showing off their “experience”. There’ll be no atmosphere, fuck all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: I'm thinking about boycotting football in general I'm with you here, man. Seeing a dear friend make all the sacrifices even with stage 4 cancer...and finding out my ex, who dedicated much of her life to helping the underprivileged in her community, was found dead in her bed, just really hit home to me that I need to personally be doing much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 If we're not actually travelling to the US, then I don't see how we can boycott it. Not watching it on TV isn't going to affect anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, NSG said: I was planning on going and I’ve got enough ESTC caps for all our games. Unfortunately I’ve been priced out. Pretty much in the same boat, made easier to not bother by my lad (17) not fancying it, not even bothering with the Florida friendlies for the caps. Will do both March games and hope we get a decent Nations League group and we can get to an away or two in the autumn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 55 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Just curious. I've watched every World Cup since 1982. It's been an integral part of my life since I was 6. And missing it will really feel like a missing chapter in a brilliant book for me. This is a huge decision. But our greatest power as individuals is probably our power of consumption...the power to choose what we buy or watch. FIFA has a history of kowtowing to thugs and monsters. And Infantino is making Blatter look small change in this area. Creating a FIFA Peace Prize just to give to this spoiled cheeseburger manifested into the shape of a human being was the last fucking straw. The U.S. is a fucking rogue state and needs to be sanctioned. FIFA rightly suspended Russia, and should do the same to the United States and Israel. Until then, fuck FIFA. We have to start wielding what power we have somewhere. Not trying to preach to anyone. Just venting. I honestly don’t know whether I envy or pity being this committed to my morals? Or maybe I just haven’t really got any morals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, SteV said: I honestly don’t know whether I envy or pity being this committed to my morals? Or maybe I just haven’t really got any morals? It's probably not a great attitude to have but I stopped giving a shit about most things a long while ago on the basis that it'd be very difficult to actually participate in life. Fair play to those who genuinely do though and not just to virtue signal, they're much bigger people than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, Troll said: If we're not actually travelling to the US, then I don't see how we can boycott it. Not watching it on TV isn't going to affect anything. Viewing numbers do affect FIFA, particularly with revenue and sponsorship. Would it have a significant impact? I have no idea. Possibly. It certainly wouldn't be well-received if huge numbers of people decided not to watch the World Cup for political reasons. It could put pressure on FIFA. But it's also about witholding my individual power as consumer. It would be much more powerful in a targeted movement with many voices, so it's time to start I guess. Just boycotting the World Cup is not helpful. I think the BDS movement should be targeting the most realistic complicit companies with the United States to boycott, like it does with Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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