Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Just now, Jack14Bojangles said: Well, at least no one can make Nick the scapegoat here. He's hardly playing anymore. Hoping someone with a bit of tactical nous can come in and make him a player here, or at least use him in the right position. My first choice would probably be cutting losses and selling him to bayern for what they originally wanted to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Love losing to this lot every season, really good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Antipode23 said: No worries. We all make mistakes. S-tier patter, truly sublime. My position on Howe is already known and it's firm, I'm not going to suddenly abandon a conviction over a result and performance I expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, Smal said: I just wonder how much damage specifically the Isak stuff has done to some of the players, and how many of them actually agreed with him about broken promises etc. Not all, but a lot of their mentalities have dropped off a cliff since the summer and when the going gets tough this season they just don't seem bothered at all. I also miss having Staveley and Ghodoussi and the culture they generated in the club, where the players actually seemed to interact with them and they cared about each other. Going from them to useless faceless twats in suits can't have been good for morale. On Jan 18 we had 32 points off 21 games and were still in 4 competitions, if finishing in the CL places is what "being in the league" means for us. We were were sixth in the league and above Man U on goal difference. I think the Isak thing hit the players, but only for the first few games, before Wissa and Woltemade were signed. The Isak thing was also compounded by Gordon playing striker and being sent off for violent conduct. This was unfortunate and hurt us, but not in a "miss Isak" kind of way. It hurt us in a "best LW and striker banned for three games" way. It hurts to say it, but after the turn of the year, we've entered a slow-motion collapse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Clueless in attack but what’s worse is Bournemouth racking up 3xg on our turf. We’re woeful defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, Stottie said: On Jan 18 we had 32 points off 21 games and were still in 4 competitions, if finishing in the CL places is what "being in the league" means for us. We were were sixth in the league and above Man U on goal difference. I think the Isak thing hit the players, but only for the first few games, before Wissa and Woltemade were signed. The Isak thing was also compounded by Gordon playing striker and being sent off for violent conduct. This was unfortunate and hurt us, but not in a "miss Isak" kind of way. It hurt us in a "best LW and striker banned for three games" way. It hurts to say it, but after the turn of the year, we've entered a slow-motion collapse. It also took us till the end of November to win our first away game in the league, since April last season. This isn't just a 'this season' problem, it was a bit dodgy last season till that 9 match winning run, which spurred us on towards the Cup Final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 10 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: Hoping someone with a bit of tactical nous can come in and make him a player here, or at least use him in the right position. My first choice would probably be cutting losses and selling him to bayern for what they originally wanted to pay. Just been saying the exact same to my father, that and says what you like about Wissa but he proved last season he can do it and has averaged one goal in three I believe throughout, on top of that we have internationals scattered through the squad. I hope we get someone in to make something work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Another woefully clueless, disjointed, honking performance. Became reminiscent of Leicester at home under McClaren at times. Can’t see where a point comes from. We’re fucking dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Another woefully clueless, disjointed, honking performance. Became reminiscent of Leicester at home under McClaren at times. Can’t see where a point comes from. We’re fucking dogshit. Howay Brighton. Thank goodness we have 12 points on Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: S-tier patter, truly sublime. My position on Howe is already known and it's firm, I'm not going to suddenly abandon a conviction over a result and performance I expected. You expected us to lose, be shit and are OK with it. Because it's Howe? Crackers, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtua Stiva Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I think Howe is a massively capable manager but anyone thinking this miraculously turns around in the summer has their head in the sand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 We’re a very average team at the minute. There’s a case to get rid of just about every player apart from Hall, Bruno, Miley and Ramsey imo. The rest either want away or aren’t good enough. I’m a Barnes fan but he was shocking as the rest today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 We’re shit, spent a fortune on shit and the atmosphere is shit. What a difference 12 months makes. Some really bad individual performances today which aren’t on Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The foolish amongst us will continue to flog a dead horse. Those with a bit more upstairs have been able to see this for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: You expected us to lose, be shit and are OK with it. Because it's Howe? Crackers, that. 2+2=5, I'm not okay with it, but I did expect it because of the form and confidence of the two teams at the moment. Tbh I expected 1-3 and Bournemouth to bum us, just because I expected it doesn't mean I'm okay with it, but it also doesn't suddenly mean that the thing I think needs to change before everything else is the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: 2+2=5, I'm not okay with it, but I did expect it because of the form and confidence of the two teams at the moment. Tbh I expected 1-3 and Bournemouth to bum us, just because I expected it doesn't mean I'm okay with it, but it also doesn't suddenly mean that the thing I think needs to change before everything else is the manager. OK, didn't read like that. Just sounded like accepting we're shite (as long as Eddie is supported) 'The lady is not for turning' is strong in you, I know one result wouldnt change a thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Virtua Stiva said: I think Howe is a massively capable manager but anyone thinking this miraculously turns around in the summer has their head in the sand Why do you think it wouldn’t? If you rate Howe I mean. Edited April 18 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 5 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: The foolish amongst us will continue to flog a dead horse. Those with a bit more upstairs have been able to see this for a while. Go away man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On the way home now, that was bad, Elanga was a disgrace, Barnes not much better. Don’t think Wissa went out to warm up once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipode23 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Why do you think it wouldn’t? You really have no idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Am also grateful that we have so many points on the board, because this side has relegation form written all over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Antipode23 said: You really have no idea? I wasn’t asking you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 38 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: He will know more than your average bloke in the street as well. Can’t blame PIF at this point if they wanna fuck it off and try someone else. That was abysmal again. You mean the manager or the club? 😬 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: The foolish amongst us will continue to flog a dead horse. Those with a bit more upstairs have been able to see this for a while. Aye I bet you saw him keeping us up and finishing 4th the next season coming for a while too. You've got it all sussed like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, Virtua Stiva said: I think Howe is a massively capable manager but anyone thinking this miraculously turns around in the summer has their head in the sand In no small part due to the manager not looking like he's got the enthusiasm or energy to. Even if its only a few percent he's visibly flatter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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