geordie_b Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 So something I don't think i've seen discussed (whilst being VERY contentious) is stadium naming rights. Its probably the easiest way to get a lot of money in the club whilst staying the right side of FFP But what do people deem acceptable? Not under any circumstances, yes if its enough to buy the 25 goal a season striker we need, doesnt matter its always going to be SJP... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 You can't do much without knocking down Leazes Terrace, it just makes everything else too complicated. And you can't do that because it's listed. But you could dismantle it and move it into an big vacant plot in the middle of the city, where it would sit alongside buildings of similar heritage and style. Maybe east of Pilgrim Street, now who owns that chunk of vacant land? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 You can't do much without knocking down Leazes Terrace, it just makes everything else too complicated. And you can't do that because it's listed. But you could dismantle it and move it into an big vacant plot in the middle of the city, where it would sit alongside buildings of similar heritage and style. Maybe east of Pilgrim Street, now who owns that chunk of vacant land? There was a plan, but not by the club, to rotate through 90degrees which would allow expansion to 70,000. Not sure how viable that would be. Also the area where the arena is will soon be vacated but not sure if there are any existing plans for that and to throw a rabbit in there......Im told but guess what, not sure, that the Rueben bros own Gosforth Park. There's always castle leazes to try for again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 You can't do much without knocking down Leazes Terrace, it just makes everything else too complicated. And you can't do that because it's listed. But you could dismantle it and move it into an big vacant plot in the middle of the city, where it would sit alongside buildings of similar heritage and style. Maybe east of Pilgrim Street, now who owns that chunk of vacant land? In terms of planning permission that would take forever . Back to the Castle Leazes plan of S J Hall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberry Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 We could just continue to make the Sir John bigger. Just keep pushing back into Leazes Park until it's 5 tiers high and the East Stand looks like a toothpaste box from the back row. With their crazy money they can destroy the whole stadium and will build a new one. With the current restriction going on at East Stand no need to play around with the current design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 For now just clean the place up and get rid of dead pigeons , that’s a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Seeming as money would be no object when considering what they might do. Why not take the Camp Nou approach and dig into the ground leaving the pitch much lower? It would solve all sorts of planning issues and you could pretty much bring it up to the level it’s at while still packing in thousands more below. Barca’s ground is only 48 meters high from street level, SJP is 98 according to google. The new Wembley is well below ground too iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Dig Doon Genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Seeming as money would be no object when considering what they might do. Why not take the Camp Nou approach and dig into the ground leaving the pitch much lower? It would solve all sorts of planning issues and you could pretty much bring it up to the level it’s at while still packing in thousands more below. Barca’s ground is only 48 meters high from street level, SJP is 98 according to google. The new Wembley is well below ground too iirc. The pitch is currently at most 3 metres from the front row, where are you going to fit in these extra thousands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 You can't do much without knocking down Leazes Terrace, it just makes everything else too complicated. And you can't do that because it's listed. But you could dismantle it and move it into an big vacant plot in the middle of the city, where it would sit alongside buildings of similar heritage and style. Maybe east of Pilgrim Street, now who owns that chunk of vacant land? There was a plan, but not by the club, to rotate through 90degrees which would allow expansion to 70,000. Not sure how viable that would be. Also the area where the arena is will soon be vacated but not sure if there are any existing plans for that and to throw a rabbit in there......Im told but guess what, not sure, that the Rueben bros own Gosforth Park. There's always castle leazes to try for again. There's an Athletic article that's very interesting on the subject. https://theathletic.co.uk/1680760/2020/03/26/unwritten-newcastle-planned-own-san-siro/ And the pitch rotation plan, apparently was already shared with Amanda Stavely. https://www.thestadiumbusiness.com/2019/04/17/radical-plan-uncovered-expansion-st-james-park/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Seeming as money would be no object when considering what they might do. Why not take the Camp Nou approach and dig into the ground leaving the pitch much lower? It would solve all sorts of planning issues and you could pretty much bring it up to the level it’s at while still packing in thousands more below. Barca’s ground is only 48 meters high from street level, SJP is 98 according to google. The new Wembley is well below ground too iirc. Yeah, it doesn't work. Plus I seem to remember Stifler suggesting that every ground should have a 90m x 50m panic area under the pitch in case shit kicks off. We'd be fucked if we had to build one of them. The pitch is currently at most 3 metres from the front row, where are you going to fit in these extra thousands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Digging down becomes an option if we could move the SJH stand backwards and/ or rotate the pitch. Create a bigger foot print at ground level and off you go. Be mighty expensive to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Seeming as money would be no object when considering what they might do. Why not take the Camp Nou approach and dig into the ground leaving the pitch much lower? It would solve all sorts of planning issues and you could pretty much bring it up to the level it’s at while still packing in thousands more below. Barca’s ground is only 48 meters high from street level, SJP is 98 according to google. The new Wembley is well below ground too iirc. The pitch is currently at most 3 metres from the front row, where are you going to fit in these extra thousands? Well I’m talking more about a stadium rebuild than a modification. There’s only one way that can happen which is building up. I think it will eventually have to happen, moving the ground somewhere else doesn’t seem to be an option anymore and besides, the location is perfect there. We would have to ground share though or just rent the use of somewhere similar to what Spurs did. Geographically it doesn’t leave many options though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 If you go to the club shop at SJP, at the top of the escalator there is leak in the ceiling. There is a bucket there. That leak has been there since Ashley bought the club. I don’t think the bucket has ever been moved, the leak certainly has not been fixed. It has been there far longer than the Gallowgate pigeon. I hope the owners fix that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 If we expanded the GG end to level 7 that should be enough to cover us. Maybe demolish the East Stand and rebuild it someway that gives us another couple of thousand extra seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I’m sure there was a video posted in here years ago about safe standing having more than one fan ‘per seat’. Surely that would increase it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 if we're going to demolish the East Stand I'd prefer we did it whilst it was full on a matchday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Bloody hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 if we're going to demolish the East Stand I'd prefer we did it whilst it was full on a matchday Then where would we fit the cemetery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Oh and Pilko[/member] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 if we're going to demolish the East Stand I'd prefer we did it whilst it was full on a matchday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 if we're going to demolish the East Stand I'd prefer we did it whilst it was full on a matchday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 if we're going to demolish the East Stand I'd prefer we did it whilst it was full on a matchday ? My wife and I were season ticket holders in the East Stand for 30 years until this season. I love the humour and understand what you are implying but we made some great mates in there. It's not that boring, honest (I once got warned/berated from a steward). Old school you see, hard as owt! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 The ' old new stand ' as old people like me call it is a solid block of concrete , is there no way to rebuild it in a more contemporary style - all glass and metal , see through etc ( See lots of modern office buildings - ie The Gherkin ) that would take care of the light issue as regards Leazes flats ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 The ' old new stand ' as old people like me call it is a solid block of concrete , is there no way to rebuild it in a more contemporary style - all glass and metal , see through etc ( See lots of modern office buildings - ie The Gherkin ) that would take care of the light issue as regards Leazes flats ? I’m sure if it was knocked down and rebuilt (Leazes/Mliburn glass style) there may be a way of adding in a few more thousand seats at a push. Imagine a fully glass St James’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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