Teasy Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Did anyone really expect that we'd buy nobody this summer though? Some signings were a given, especially with the club selling Nolan and making it clear Barton wasn't really wanted anymore. I'm hopeful the new players will do well, but the odds of any of them being top class difference makers that transform us into a Top 6 team are slim to be honest. If it is a case that Jose is waiting to see our ambition then he's right to wait a while more IMO, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already decided he's leaving. How many people expected us to get three very good players in by mid June though? You and Jose are well out of order, the club has shown massive ambition in bringing the 3 new players in and we've now got the same size squad that we finished last season with if you discount Ireland. Oh, and we've spent something like £1 million but that isn't a measure of our ambition. No I don't agree, I think the better move would have been to keep Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan and not even bring in those three players. We'd still have the same size squad, therefore we'd be no worse off obviously as squad size is all that matters. and we'd have saved £1m. We could then leave our transfer moves to the right time, which is surely the last day of the transfer window. That would put us in the enviable position of spending £30m on three desperation signings and we could all celebrate the sense of ambition that comes from spending lots of cash on overpriced flops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 It'll hurt but the lad obviously wants to move onto bigger and better things. I say cut our losses while we can still bring in a decent replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I REALLY want him to stay but it does look as though he just wants off. SO lets ship him out but abroad not in the Prem no fkn way, rather let him stay another year than watch him stay in England. Swap deal with a Spanish club, see who we can get for him. But ultimately do you not think that, if his departure is inevitable when his contract winds down, we should at least look to get a fee in for him? I'd rather he stayed too but you have to look at this with business eyes and future finances. It's better to recoup some money - especially when he'd command a decent transfer fee - than nothing. Although I recognise the counter-argument of counter-balancing any transfer fee by what he would contribute this year on the pitch. What annoys me is that, if he just showed a little bit of patience and stuck with us, he could contribute to us being a team who could actually be a match for Arsenal in a game and help us build something over a few years when we could almost be as good as them. For me, at least, that would be a much more rewarding thing to look back on, but I'm not him and nor am I on the fringes of the Spanish national team (their loss tbh...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I love the bloke, but if he doesn't want to play for NUFC anymore, he can f*** clean off. He's already been dropped from my FIFA 11 starting team, although Marveaux isn't pulling his weight at left back. What is a boy to do?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I love the bloke, but if he doesn't want to play for NUFC anymore, he can f*** clean off. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Did anyone really expect that we'd buy nobody this summer though? Some signings were a given, especially with the club selling Nolan and making it clear Barton wasn't really wanted anymore. I'm hopeful the new players will do well, but the odds of any of them being top class difference makers that transform us into a Top 6 team are slim to be honest. If it is a case that Jose is waiting to see our ambition then he's right to wait a while more IMO, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already decided he's leaving. How many people expected us to get three very good players in by mid June though? You and Jose are well out of order, the club has shown massive ambition in bringing the 3 new players in and we've now got the same size squad that we finished last season with if you discount Ireland. Oh, and we've spent something like £1 million but that isn't a measure of our ambition. No I don't agree, I think the better move would have been to keep Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan and not even bring in those three players. We'd still have the same size squad, therefore we'd be no worse off obviously as squad size is all that matters. and we'd have saved £1m. We could then leave our transfer moves to the right time, which is surely the last day of the transfer window. That would put us in the enviable position of spending £30m on three desperation signings and we could all celebrate the sense of ambition that comes from spending lots of cash on overpriced flops Spot on! I don't get why some (the same usual suspect) insist that we must spend big to show ambition. Somehow getting international players who have played in the CL or players who have proven that they can do well in the Premiership (all by mid June too, way ahead of most other clubs) is not ambitious...weird logic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 M'bengue has all the attributes to be just as good Just as quick, just as strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 M'bengue has all the attributes to be just as good Just as quick, just as strong Speaks French too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Not spending big is not unambitious, been completely reluctant to spend big is, however. I'm all for these bargain basement deals we are getting, but I hope we are not purposefully avoiding other players because we are s*** scared of spending over £5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 M'bengue has all the attributes to be just as good Just as quick, just as strong Speaks French too. The most important attribute IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Did anyone really expect that we'd buy nobody this summer though? Some signings were a given, especially with the club selling Nolan and making it clear Barton wasn't really wanted anymore. I'm hopeful the new players will do well, but the odds of any of them being top class difference makers that transform us into a Top 6 team are slim to be honest. If it is a case that Jose is waiting to see our ambition then he's right to wait a while more IMO, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already decided he's leaving. How many people expected us to get three very good players in by mid June though? You and Jose are well out of order, the club has shown massive ambition in bringing the 3 new players in and we've now got the same size squad that we finished last season with if you discount Ireland. Oh, and we've spent something like £1 million but that isn't a measure of our ambition. No I don't agree, I think the better move would have been to keep Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan and not even bring in those three players. We'd still have the same size squad, therefore we'd be no worse off obviously as squad size is all that matters. and we'd have saved £1m. We could then leave our transfer moves to the right time, which is surely the last day of the transfer window. That would put us in the enviable position of spending £30m on three desperation signings and we could all celebrate the sense of ambition that comes from spending lots of cash on overpriced flops So what, teams should only sign bosman transfers then? I do think we've gotten better so far this summer, but if you're honestly happy with this as the bulk of our summer activity then I don't know what to tell you. It's a good start, but in terms of showing ambition to challenge for Europe then it's not enough yet, especially given what happened in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Sell him for the highest price possible if he's dicking us about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Facebook "espectacular españa!!!! que pocas ganas tengo de volver ..... las vacaciones es lo mejor que ahi" "Spain spectacular!! I have no desire to come back ..... the holiday is the best there" Think this could be misconstrued by some, surely same way nobody wants to come back from a Holiday considering he'll probably end up in England regardless... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Some of the comments ffs Daniel McKinley hey enrique if your disrespecting newcastle come on man if you leave thats fine cause your a awesome player and nothing but the best for you but dont disrespect newcastle we have did nothing wrong to you or the fans Nathan Wearmouth stay there then prick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Honestly some of the Newcastle fans on Facebook make the mackems on SMB appear literate and intelligent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Some of the comments ffs Daniel McKinley hey enrique if your disrespecting newcastle come on man if you leave thats fine cause your a awesome player and nothing but the best for you but dont disrespect newcastle we have did nothing wrong to you or the fans Nathan Wearmouth stay there then prick Oh ffs. Well played Nathan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 I hate seeing Newcastle fans commenting on Facebook/Twitter ect, thick as f***ing mince. p.s class avatar BottledDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Aye. Some cunt on FB was going on about 'playmaker' Alan Smith deserving his place back in the England squad last summer. NUSC group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Someone put up a Youtube vid a while back with comments such as "who wouldn't want Smith in there side?" "Absolute warrior" and such s*** like that. I was nearly sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Someone put up a Youtube vid a while back with comments such as "who wouldn't want Smith in there side?" "Absolute warrior" and such s*** like that. I was nearly sick. Aye, I commented on that video (may have been a different one with similar comments) slating the fuck out of him and people were stunned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Did anyone really expect that we'd buy nobody this summer though? Some signings were a given, especially with the club selling Nolan and making it clear Barton wasn't really wanted anymore. I'm hopeful the new players will do well, but the odds of any of them being top class difference makers that transform us into a Top 6 team are slim to be honest. If it is a case that Jose is waiting to see our ambition then he's right to wait a while more IMO, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already decided he's leaving. How many people expected us to get three very good players in by mid June though? You and Jose are well out of order, the club has shown massive ambition in bringing the 3 new players in and we've now got the same size squad that we finished last season with if you discount Ireland. Oh, and we've spent something like £1 million but that isn't a measure of our ambition. No I don't agree, I think the better move would have been to keep Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan and not even bring in those three players. We'd still have the same size squad, therefore we'd be no worse off obviously as squad size is all that matters. and we'd have saved £1m. We could then leave our transfer moves to the right time, which is surely the last day of the transfer window. That would put us in the enviable position of spending £30m on three desperation signings and we could all celebrate the sense of ambition that comes from spending lots of cash on overpriced flops So what, teams should only sign bosman transfers then? I do think we've gotten better so far this summer, but if you're honestly happy with this as the bulk of our summer activity then I don't know what to tell you. It's a good start, but in terms of showing ambition to challenge for Europe then it's not enough yet, especially given what happened in January. Shak man, think you're conflating the issues. Nobody is content with the signings so far. But the fact that we've got some good signings and by mid June (when most other clubs are doing nothing) does show that we are heading in the right direction and that we are ambitious. Whether that will be enough to get into Europe, nobody knows, in fact given how unpredictable the Premiership is, we won't know till end of the season next year. Now for Jose, as a player who is not just a mercenary (hopefully), he has a moral obligation to the fans and club. If he is waiting for a Drogba/Torres sort of signing, that's just not going to happen and if he waits till last day of the transfer window before declaring that our deals have not been up to his expectations and he is buggering off, then that is unacceptable. At some point he has to either show some faith that we are heading in the right direction and sign on or just declare that he has his heart somewhere else and request for a transfer. This dilly dallying is not doing him, the club or the fans any favor, well maybe it works well for him coz he can wait it out to get a big club to bid whilst holding us to ransom coz he knows we want him to stay, but that is really unfair on the club and the fans. Sure we all like Jose, but I can't understand why anyone would take his side against the club. I want him to tell us straight on his plans by early July (hopefully we'll get 1 or two more deals done by then). Then we either have him on board or get the replacement in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 He has had long enough now to make his mind up so transfer list him now and start a bidding war with a decision to be made on who gets him by 1st July. In the meantime, get M'Bengue in from Toulouse in readiness for the USA tour. Might as well finalise young Taylor. Enough faffing around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 There are some Newcastle fans that think Smith should be in the England side. They want their heads decapitated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Did anyone really expect that we'd buy nobody this summer though? Some signings were a given, especially with the club selling Nolan and making it clear Barton wasn't really wanted anymore. I'm hopeful the new players will do well, but the odds of any of them being top class difference makers that transform us into a Top 6 team are slim to be honest. If it is a case that Jose is waiting to see our ambition then he's right to wait a while more IMO, though I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's already decided he's leaving. How many people expected us to get three very good players in by mid June though? You and Jose are well out of order, the club has shown massive ambition in bringing the 3 new players in and we've now got the same size squad that we finished last season with if you discount Ireland. Oh, and we've spent something like £1 million but that isn't a measure of our ambition. No I don't agree, I think the better move would have been to keep Kuqi, Campbell and Nolan and not even bring in those three players. We'd still have the same size squad, therefore we'd be no worse off obviously as squad size is all that matters. and we'd have saved £1m. We could then leave our transfer moves to the right time, which is surely the last day of the transfer window. That would put us in the enviable position of spending £30m on three desperation signings and we could all celebrate the sense of ambition that comes from spending lots of cash on overpriced flops So what, teams should only sign bosman transfers then? I do think we've gotten better so far this summer, but if you're honestly happy with this as the bulk of our summer activity then I don't know what to tell you. It's a good start, but in terms of showing ambition to challenge for Europe then it's not enough yet, especially given what happened in January. Shak man, think you're conflating the issues. Nobody is content with the signings so far. But the fact that we've got some good signings and by mid June (when most other clubs are doing nothing) does show that we are heading in the right direction and that we are ambitious. Whether that will be enough to get into Europe, nobody knows, in fact given how unpredictable the Premiership is, we won't know till end of the season next year. Now for Jose, as a player who is not just a mercenary (hopefully), he has a moral obligation to the fans and club. If he is waiting for a Drogba/Torres sort of signing, that's just not going to happen and if he waits till last day of the transfer window before declaring that our deals have not been up to his expectations and he is buggering off, then that is unacceptable. At some point he has to either show some faith that we are heading in the right direction and sign on or just declare that he has his heart somewhere else and request for a transfer. This dilly dallying is not doing him, the club or the fans any favor, well maybe it works well for him coz he can wait it out to get a big club to bid whilst holding us to ransom coz he knows we want him to stay, but that is really unfair on the club and the fans. Sure we all like Jose, but I can't understand why anyone would take his side against the club. I want him to tell us straight on his plans by early July (hopefully we'll get 1 or two more deals done by then). Then we either have him on board or get the replacement in. I'm not taking his side at all, think he should grow some balls and either sign a new deal or else tell us why he isn't. My point is simply that making three solid, but far from spectacular, signings hardly shows massive ambition and a commitment to using the Carroll sale to improve the team as a whole. Again, not having a go at the signings we've made because I think they all look like decent deals, I just don't see us having proven our intent this summer yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 There are some Newcastle fans that think Smith should be in the England side. They want their heads decapitated. How else would you decapitate someone like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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