jdckelly Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? not being mentioned, probably a replacement for simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? Surely after these comments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 ALERT! ALERT! PEOPLE CRITICISING CLUB OWNER! God you're tiresome Now are you sure you have spelled tiresome correctly? If not, the spelling police will call and Dave's the founder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I'm just waiting for the usual twitter msg that follows these kind of outbursts - sorry someone got my phone ignore all that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Since when did Nolan want to go because he wasn't happy? Nolan left because we wouldn't offer him the contract he wanted, a contract that we'd have been utter morons to offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 He's right, though. And deep down we all know it. Although like Barton, he's an idiot for making an outburst like this on Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Idon't have any doubt he is a top left back but we like a lot of clubs can't afford to match top 4 wages. I don't know if that is considered sticking up for the owners, just think it's being realistic As I said a while back, if we wants champions league football we won't be offering that for a long time. Surely he could have seen that when he made comments about signing a new contract once we were safe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Since when did Nolan want to go because he wasn't happy? Nolan left because we wouldn't offer him the contract he wanted, a contract that we'd have been utter morons to offer. Has he ever said that? Do you believe anything PR-dew says? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I see a lot of talk right now about people defending the board, yet I don't see anyone actually defending them. It's clear something's amiss but to come out and spread this kind of s*** all over twitter is the real problem here. You don't see much evidence of professionalism from the players or the management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110724/defender-dummett-heading-stateside_2281670_2400752 I wasn't expecting it at all, I'd got a knock in the first game in Holland, missed the second game and was looking forward to playing in the third and final game - but now I'm going to America. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Can any Spanish speaker try and do a proper non-google translation? I've tried to tidy it up from the automatic translation, but I can't be sure I'm not misquoting The club is letting all the major players of the team go. Seriously, do you think is the fault of the players? Andy, Nobby etc? This club will never fight again to be among the top six with this policy. I think you fans are the best and you deserve the best, not what they are doing with the club. Thanks to everyone for supporting me They're offering me the money I have already. They lie all the time. But is not for money is because they don't want me. They don't want spend on the club and bring quality players. That's why everybody is going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Since when did Nolan want to go because he wasn't happy? Nolan left because we wouldn't offer him the contract he wanted, a contract that we'd have been utter morons to offer. Has he ever said that? Do you believe anything PR-dew says? Yes, he (Nolan) said he wanted a longer contract than we would offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Actually, wait, I know a spanish speaker - gimmie a few mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 After re-reading his first line I wouldn't be surprised if the club are touting Tiote etc around. They were blatantly doing that to Carroll in January and perhaps MA views this as the means to get his loan back. Certainly wouldn't surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't one club who would have rejected Carroll's bid in our position, or would have matched the Nolan offer West Ham gave him (hence why he dropped a division). The fans know it's going to be a few years before we're back in the top 6, so why the fuck does he say this? If he wants to go to a top 6 club fair enough, but no need whatsoever to make that public when we're going about things pretty nicely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I just wish players would keep this s*** in house. Barton, Jose...they must think we're the only non top 6 club who sells if a big offer comes in. Bet they weren't whinging last year when they were picking up £5m between them in the Championship. I think the players do make an effort to keep things inhouse. There have been many arguments between the players and Ashley/Llambias and most stuff stays in house. Nolan always said this was important to give the club an appearance of stability. The trouble is this helps the hierarchy because it is the players who get accused of a lack of loyalty or being greedy when they decide to move on. The sale of Carroll was the breaking point because I believe he did not want to leave and the other players knew that as well. When you have players like Given, Nolan and Jose who have been very happy at the club wanting to leave because they are not happy with what's going on, then they can't all be wrong. The circumstances may differ but we only ever hear one side of the story. Excellent post. Far more articulate than my posts on the same subject and exactly what I was thinking. Since when did Nolan want to go because he wasn't happy? Nolan left because we wouldn't offer him the contract he wanted, a contract that we'd have been utter morons to offer. Has he ever said that? Do you believe anything PR-dew says? Yes, he (Nolan) said he wanted a longer contract than we would offer. Don't recall seeing the quotes, can you re-post? cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110724/defender-dummett-heading-stateside_2281670_2400752 I wasn't expecting it at all, I'd got a knock in the first game in Holland, missed the second game and was looking forward to playing in the third and final game - but now I'm going to America. Whats' funny? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I see a lot of talk right now about people defending the board, yet I don't see anyone actually defending them. It's clear something's amiss but to come out and spread this kind of s*** all over twitter is the real problem here. You don't see much evidence of professionalism from the players or the management. The club's hierarchy are taking the piss and it's breeding similar from the players. It's not a surprise at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't one club who would have rejected Carroll's bid in our position, or would have matched the Nolan offer West Ham gave him (hence why he dropped a division). The fans know it's going to be a few years before we're back in the top 6, so why the fuck does he say this? If he wants to go to a top 6 club fair enough, but no need whatsoever to make that public when we're going about things pretty nicely. I still can't believe we got 35 million for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 When he says we are letting all the top players leave - andy and nobby etc, who are the etc..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't one club who would have rejected Carroll's bid in our position, or would have matched the Nolan offer West Ham gave him (hence why he dropped a division). The fans know it's going to be a few years before we're back in the top 6, so why the fuck does he say this? If he wants to go to a top 6 club fair enough, but no need whatsoever to make that public when we're going about things pretty nicely. There's a difference between rejecting a massive bid out of the blue (and I agree with your point) and touting to get the biggest fee for him i.e; planning for the sale. Which I believe we were. I don't mind the sale of Nolan the player but I think it's implications are absolutely obvious and would not have even been considered by those who count at NUFC. MA/DL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Sorry if I've missed this, but is Enrique leaving the tour as the young lads been called up? not being mentioned, probably a replacement for simpson we've lost Simpson and Ryan Taylor went off injured against Orlando, that only leaves us 4 defenders out in America Tavernier, Taylor, Colo and Jose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I don't one club who would have rejected Carroll's bid in our position, or would have matched the Nolan offer West Ham gave him (hence why he dropped a division). The fans know it's going to be a few years before we're back in the top 6, so why the f*** does he say this? If he wants to go to a top 6 club fair enough, but no need whatsoever to make that public when we're going about things pretty nicely. Agree with that. My hunch is we've been holding out for too much money for him behind the scenes and this will get him his move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 After re-reading his first line I wouldn't be surprised if the club are touting Tiote etc around. They were blatantly doing that to Carroll in January and perhaps MA views this as the means to get his loan back. Certainly wouldn't surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 When he says we are letting all the top players leave - andy and nobby etc, who are the etc..? It'll be those whose agents have been told we'd happily sell them for x. There's essentially nobody on our squad list who is not for sale. So, all this bollocks about using the AC Money to reinvest/move forward etc, is just that. Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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