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And Pickford's better than Shilton.

We don’t do loan deals.

Id take Grealish. But city would have to pay half or ideally 2 thirds of his wages over a season long loan with an option to buy (not an ogligation). Id love to see what Howe could do with him tbh.

“This chart confirms all my priors” - everyone

There's no issue with talent. He'd be comfortably one of our best players in possession, he could play in a few positions and I don't think he's too old at all. I just don't see how the finances work, unless City think loaning him out to a PL club will re-ignite his value, in the same way Villa did with Rashford but again, City would likely have to pay half the wages too. It just sounds like rubbish paper talk. There's loads of our lads who will know Grealish pretty well, Trippier, Pope, Wilson, Burn, Tino, Hall for example. If his attitude ain't right, then there won't be any hiding it. We know that Howe is meticulous on character, so if he did want him, it wouldn't be an issue. But yes, complete made up nonsense is the likely situation. He'll end up on loan to Arsenal or somewhere.

I'll give it a shot. Sleep on the top bunk though.

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Best CB we’ve had?

I didn't like the jack the lad type of person he appeared sitting on city's bench and slipping away from the England setup pointed to a serious lack of ambition. But the videos I have seen of his interactions with his sister with cerebal palsy and other disabled fans as a dad with two severely disabled kids I must admit I instantly saw him differently. No idea what he could offer these days footballing wise but a loan without obligation may not be so bad.

I think he looked at decent player when I've watched him. If he succeeds in Dortmund, that price won't look much. From Sunderlands point of view, their issue is finding players of sufficient quality that want to play for Sunderland. They are going to get their arses kicked every week. They'd be better off accepting their fate and investing any money they have in young talented players who will make them stronger in the medium to long term.

English tax and paying for the surname a bit imo. He'll probably do well there.

I'm pretty sure he and Antonio were also generally taking the piss about him not scoring enough too.

Like an overbearing mother with dance kids

Bearing in mind they will see it as he contributed to them getting promoted and will offset it against that.

Can't stand the bloke personally but I try to look at the bigger picture and see what he would bring to the table. But yes that is my gut reaction as well.

-£20m for Pepe le pew, thar Marra? #FTM

Pope is really excellent at coming up with those saves after long periods of doing nothing like. Class mentality

Genuine question as I must have missed something - how are they not richer on Bellingham being sold when they only paid £3m for him?

Are they now going to live vicariously through him for the rest of his career, like with all those trophies Henderson won for Sunderland while at Liverpool?

Easy to forget that other than the goal they got this save was the only one they made Pope make in the whole afternoon. Palm that one in and it's a different story completely

That plus the £15m Brighton paid for another player gives them around £45m, Everton are apparently after one for around £15m as well.

I think the fact he was away negotiating getting away from the club as soon as he possibly could, despite promotion, speaks volumes about what he thought about them. Doesn't reflect particularly well on him either imo. Other clubs will just raise their prices regardless of the wage thing too tbh, they'll all ask top dollar now

Mug deal for Dortmund. They've done that transfer with the expectation that they can sell him on for 80-100m in 2 years time. Absolutely no chance that happens. They've been had big time.

Pope against Liverpool from Jones in the cup final.

Fair play how quick Jobe got himself out. Sure a few others will be looking on with envy