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Howe is keeping this club together imo. What else looks to be done at a world class level recently?

I'm bothered like, unless anyone is aware of another player who can cover Joelinton/LCM and also up front Fucking Chelsea man

Ive got absolutely no issue with anyone saying that we need 4+ players. I think that's fair. We've got aging players, the squad needs a refresh and we've got much bigger commitments this season. It's the cry arsing about the player they want, not signing when they want them and for the price they think they are valued at. "Another window of this bullshit". Fuck off you entitled little bellends. This is the best its ever been for me and I went to my first game in 1994.

Miracles We had a good season but howay there's no need to exaggerate.

We were never seriously looking at Grealish or Rice. There’s no evidence of strong links to either. Several of these players we’ve been chasing for years. Still having protracted sagas to get them signed or not. It’s just not a good look. I’m personally not overly worried. Particularly when we are gazumped by others. But the protracted nature of the Elanga and Trafford deal don’t reflect well on those meant to be closing deals. And again - the uncertainty around the clubs management - isn’t a great reflection of the leadership either. We can only judge the window at the end. There’s some positive indicators in our approach but a lot of negative indicators too.

Have always trusted Scott Wilson the most.

Not massively bothered about missing out on him to be honest, but my bigger concern is what form of due diligence the club performed on a prospective deal. Was he always hanging on for Chelsea? If we had any inclination of that, we should have moved on weeks ago.

Agree, but we still have the rest of the window to see how this plays out. After last summer expectations are high this time round when we've got decent money to spend. We have to be creative in the market. We might not be a cartel club but we are still in a better position than all the rest of the clubs to spend big.

Last time I looked we qualified for the champions league and villa didn’t. Keep doubling down on your crazy argument though.

I still think his future is at right back, but strangely again in this tournament he was much better in the opening 2 games where he played left back. Was much quieter when he was moved to right back for the rest of the games.

A good season in spite of the window. Howe performed miracles last season. He can't be expected to keep doing so.

It's just the way the PL is set up for the cartel clubs. Not really a lot PIF or any other owner can do about it. Doesn't matter who the owner is, PSR is going to stop them from spending money to make up ground on the cartel clubs by ploughing their own money in. Can't really blame PIF for putting their money where it can benefit them outside of the PL. This is a PL policy which is there to protect the interests of the big clubs already at the top.

And Lloyd Kelly, who's the best piece of business we've done this century.

It stinks of a move to weaken the opposition. Pedro will follow the cash / longterm contract.

I’ve thought that about the Saudi’s and the super league for a couple of years, the situation stinks to me, and the latter seems to make sense to me given my observations of how the club has been run. I also don’t know who is running the club right now given Eales illness. It’s just opinions, I’m not urinating anywhere I shouldn’t.

Bit disrespectful to our Greek international goalkeeper saying we signed nobody.

It's June. Why aren't some still not understanding why we didn't sign anyone in the previous 3 windows? WE HAD NO FUCKING MONEY. It bares no relationship to what's happening this summer.

Aye, my daughter lives in a street just outside the old Benwell training ground and I'm sure it's still got the same perimeter fence up. I always think it's amazing to think KK, Beardsley, Gazza Used to be over that fence most days. Used to walk up a lot when I lived in West Denton as a kid.

It's reported targets, I know you believe everything in the press but not me. For example, I dont think for a second we want to sign Jack Grealish. Clubs have multiple targets for a reason and there's actually no shame in having ambition to sign the best players we can. So what if bigger clubs gazump us on wages and fees? As far as i can tell there's absolutely nothing the club can do about it, other than not targeting good players, in which we'd have certain erudite posters criticising them for. Also, the timeline you have in your head, isnt the same as what reality is. For example, sure we likely put out hat into the ring for Cunha, Delap, Mbuemo but how far down the line were they ever at? I suspect not very far. We put out hat in the ring for Declan Rice and what? We didn't get him? So fuck. Move on. I dont understand what's going on here, we'd rather we went for worse players, so long as we actually sign them?

Doesn’t look like it does it? This time last year most of the panic deals were done an and just a few were being concluded like ours. ‘Villa’s gambled backfired’, ‘they are taking crazy risks’ If there’s a will there’s a way. Except at Newcastle. Then there’s no way.

Then do ex Man City youth. It’s laughable how much is spent on just two sides, because they have people upstairs who come from those two sides

All I see is a sense of drift at the top, and yet another window of nothing happening.

Amazing to think that anyone could just wander into the training ground and watch the full session, practice games, set pieces etc

Valid concern, but I don't think it necessarily follows we haven't done our homework. It wouldn't be the first time that we've tried (and failed) in the Premier League market first, before moving onto other targets. Or it might just be the club has struggled to identify value abroad. It just feels that they might face less competition and hold more bargaining power. We can only speculate, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out over the next few weeks.

I think it’s 50/50 whether they stay up they won’t be as outmatched as some think and I think their recruitment is smart, think Mayenda will be a handful and the new lad has pace and physicality. Think Wolves and Brentford could join promoted sides in peril this season.