madras

is this that argument with those folk......................... .........................again ?

It is the tactic often used by clubs who struggle to score as it means the two out wide are always cutting in to shoot on there stronger foot. I remember when Peter Reid had Michael Grey playing right midfield Kranjar plays on the left for Pompey & iirc he is right footed & Ginola could whack a ball with his right. For me, Milner doesn't really have much in his locker. He's just a player with a great attitude who crosses the ball. Because of this, he needs to whip his crosses in quickly and early, like Nobby Solano and Beckham, 2 other players who didn't have pace. He won't do that with his left foot, so his only chance of becoming a good player - or a better player - is to become better at this IMO. I concede he will score the odd goal, or get the odd cross in from the byline against a full back who is one paced like himself. Not enough though. pointless if we don't have the forwards there. the way we play means viduka needs pace to get there,martins cannot read play well enough and owen can and does do it but only when fit. no matter how good the cross is if you do it when you know there is no-one there then it's deliberatly giving the ball away (robert in his latter days done it all the time--fantastic crosses when he had looked up and saw there wasn't anyone there) give me a scott sellars any day. wasn't fast by any stretch and didn't have to go outside but had the strange idea of passing to players on his team, ably assisted by players moving into space..............it's a simple game really.

doubt he will for james milner will wake up in the morning, arise from pies mams bed,ruffle the little fellas hair and say "no you aren't getting a free ticket you little pikey"

it seems strange that he gets slagged off by so many who dont know what goes on yet he's been kept there by every manager since keegan.

who's wife did he sleep with...his own or lyons ?

or the scotland job...either way i doubt collins will have time to sign on the dole.

how about...............................................ralf keidel

2 on sunday

pr, sellable asset, spend loads of money straight away etc etc you forgot a mackems.gif or two

i'll wait for the evidence before deciding....i'm weird that way.

the forwards have to work for it aswell. no matter how good a cross it is we'll not score if both forwards are not reading where it's going.

True, expecting a winger to cross a ball accurately is clearly being too picky. With the standard around ATM you'll be hard pressed to find many wingers that can cross accurately on a regular basis outside of the Ronaldos of this world. I don't know whether it's a dying art but there's certainly a dearth of quality wingers in the league. a dearth of quality forwards to read where an instinctive cross is going......even beckahm and giggs at their peaks often just put the ball in the right areas and two instinctive well drilled forwards done the rest Yeah true. Michael Owen and Mark Viduka have a record of not knowing where the ball is going...... how many game s have they played for us ? do you think viduka viduka is fully fit ? or do you think viduka is a poacher type of forward ?

if you play well constantly but lose you think it will turn for you...if you pick up points while playing consistently poor you think you will eventually get caught. When we are playing poor and picking up points i think that it means there is more to come from players. Football is all about opinions, it depend on whether your a glass half full or empty guy. Sadly most people on here are half empty but claim to be realistic. i'm unsure the tactics of our manager will get better performances from our players

True, expecting a winger to cross a ball accurately is clearly being too picky. With the standard around ATM you'll be hard pressed to find many wingers that can cross accurately on a regular basis outside of the Ronaldos of this world. I don't know whether it's a dying art but there's certainly a dearth of quality wingers in the league. a dearth of quality forwards to read where an instinctive cross is going......even beckahm and giggs at their peaks often just put the ball in the right areas and two instinctive well drilled forwards done the rest

if you play well constantly but lose you think it will turn for you...if you pick up points while playing consistently poor you think you will eventually get caught.

i've seen little to suggest that n'zogbia will be much of an improvement on milner. we'd be going back to 2005/6 to see any form in that position. compare that with what brummie would say about milner's time at villa ? Madras, Sorry mate but I frankly don't give a damn what some brummie person would say about Milner playing for a different club. Zog is a much better player than Milner right now and also has the potential to improve to a greater level than Milner will ever reach. Imo. i'm very open minded on it. yes n'zogbia has bags of potential but his form over the past 18months has him well and truly in the over-rated camp especially by many on here. re-his crossing as mentioned by some isn't as bad as made out by some and some of the time the forwards don't help (unfortunatly it is only the forwards as for 2 or 3 years we haven't had any midfielders getting beyond into threatening positions)....sometimes the best the winger can do is put the ball in a threatening place and hope the forwards read it. only owen going near post does it for us.

i've seen little to suggest that n'zogbia will be much of an improvement on milner. we'd be going back to 2005/6 to see any form in that position. compare that with what brummie would say about milner's time at villa ?

it was on the other night. it likes my mate rob....interesting ideas but pointless really

keeper karelse and where is luque ?

Yes, Geremi has been poor lately, but to say "get rid of him" is just stupid. He clearly can play well as he has shown in pre-season and we're going to have to be patient with him. If he doesn't find his form eventually then he'll have to be more of a bit-part player and someone else will have to be captain. He's also decent at right back if Beye is ever injured or moves to the centre. im entitled to my own opinion never mind your entitled to your own opinion its twenty past eleven at night now get to bed me lad Your IP matches, so even pretending for a minute you aren't just Kev, why don't you just say it to him in person? who's ip matches who's ?

Hippocrates was a doctor, not a philosopher. both...could say he was the founder of the philosophy of medicine and certainly had an effect on medical ethics

Really? I may be wrong but I always thought that the chairman ran the club and made the decisions and the major shareholder/owner stayed in the background and let the chairman do the job he was employed to do which takes us back to the original post where the current chairman was saying just that. you mean like "backing his manager" ? Is this what a good board does, or do you prefer "not backing his manager". As Mort appears to indicate his decision ie his comment that "he" will spend money. How does that grab you ? I asked you earlier, what would you say if we lost players such as David Bently and Dean Ashton to someone like Everton or Man City on financial grounds, and you didn't really reply ? Are you happy that he seems to be happy with mid table mediocrity this season, or are you rather stupidly going to support that stupid comment earlier that it is me who wants them to fail when its me who is kicking up a fuss about them being happy with mid table mediocrity ? We won't mention your favourite board ie McKeags, Seymours, etc considering this to be success. Maybe this is territory you prefer yourself ? [so long as he doesn't call you nasty names and embarrass you, thats alright ] ashley has backed someone elses appointment to the tune of £10mill net

to be fair that should be directed at the core of posters aswell (of which i have been known to drift in and out)

if he wiped out the clubs debt,out of his own pocket how would that lie with you ? It's a shame how some things just get overlooked.... i posed it as a rhetorical question

if so does that also mean that shepherd didn't actually back anyone as he wasn't using his own money but building up corporate debt while taking a healthy wedge out ? what are you on about. All the managers bought plenty of players, and we qualified for the CL and europe regularly because of it ? We;ve had this dividend bit before with macbeth. Shareholders take dividends. Ashley is making the club a financially strong football club but is he prepared to chase success on the pitch and take risks and show ambition. We will never match the top teams until we have players that they want. This is so basic and correct, it is staggering people can't see it. all the managers bought and sold plenty of players. the net spend isn't as high as you'd think.i wonder what the net spend of ashleys first transfer window was compared to those of the previous.