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Twenty Two times? Serial Quitter? Should be locked up for the sanity of English football

Aye, bit of a hard one... Didn't really want Tel boy but it's a bit embarrassing when he turns us down

Moderators; change "will" to "would". I would take him back happily but the forgiving part would not be applicable at all from my point of view. Stood up for himself and our club tbf...

I like it!! Totally commited and will deffo contribute... Power to the Mags!!

It's a shame he couldn't have come out with a statement like this a long time ago and telling us what his intentions for our club were!! Would probably have made this fiasco easier to swallow...

Out: Carr, Ramage, Emre, Milner, Faye, Rozenthal In: Coloccini, Guthrie, Jonas, Gonzalez, Bassong, Xisco Six out and six in. Which six would you go for? I know my six and if we made a profit then unreal!!

Wouldn't it be great though... Power to the people!!!

It's also a possibility UV!! Whichever of the two at least the long term aim could see us grooming some young talent (and perhaps selling it!!) and developing a decent team. It's hard to rationalise but you would think his business objectives override anything else...

Social conditioning and lack of education and opportunity TBH... Life deals you your cards and you try and make the best out of your hand... some people don't, that's all.

Wouldn't mind TBH! Seems like a nice bloke aswell from his TV interviews...

I don't think so, results have been decent after a shaky start and the fans were happy so it would be totally against all good business sense to plan for his resignation. Just think two sides have been pulling in opposite directions instead of making the best of our resources they/him have inevitably funked up big style!!

He's right, it is all so superficial and you struggle to find some sort of link to your team these days, we are just clients for these new owners who really don't give a monkeys about our clubs but just want to milk us and the rest of the world if possible. True also, that you can't just change allegiance as Nufc is in our hearts and it is one hard slog to be honest. I think he means if you want real "romanticism" and feel football how it used to be and on a purists level still is... For those of you who haven't been to lower division games you should try it... Knowledge is power!!

Here's a few positive footballing managers: Frank rikaard (Available) Gerard Houllier (decent stuff played at LYON) Marcelino (good footie at Racing santander)

Personally I think both sides need to make some sort of concession and meet in the middle somewhere i.e. Keegan has last say over sales and two buys per window and wise and company have say over young players brought in and other two players for window. Something along those lines would be a better solution. It's a shame they can't meet somewhwere in the middle because I like what both sides are doing for the club. I honestly think Ashley has NUFC's interests at heart otherwise he wouldn't be such a clever business man that he's made out to be .i.e. Newcastle does well, he makes pots of cash... Simple isn't it???

Hat off to the man for standing up for his principles. I certainly enjoyed it while it lasted. Cheers & Good Luck!!

He either wants money (which is due to him-not as the brochure said!) or he wants certain control over transfers to stop this fiasco happening again...

On one hand there is too much work for a manager to do as well as hunting out transfer targets and on the other hand they will not like having players forced on to them by a "virtual manager" from above. It would probably only work when both manager and DOF know each other well and are comfortable with each others philosophies and the club's strategy. P.S. Wise's leeds team played decent football as far as I can remember, you would think him and Kev would have eneough in common to see each others football philosophies work!!

I also agree that the set up seems very logical and theoretically it should work and we should only get better with a lower outlay than other clubs... Who's responsible for the spanner in the works? -Keegan for having a hissy fit when players he wanted didn't come in/players being sold without adecuate replacements... -Wise for not vetoing the players keegan wanted in because he saw that they didn't concur with his/club's strategy/ wanting to sell players who were obviously dead wood...

We have enough options to play different tactics... 4-4-2: Beye Colo Taylor Enrique Jonas Guthrie Nacho Zoggy Owen Xisco/Martins 4-3-3: Beye Colo Bassong Enrique Jonas Barton Guthrie Owen Xisco Martins 4-1-3-2: Beye Colo Bassong Enrique Butt Jonas Nacho Guthrie Owen Martins

From what I can pick up fron the press (oh no!) and the forums it is Ashley who has calmed things down and is looking for a solution. Keegan is right that he should ultimately control transfers but it should be done in conjunction with wise and company i.e. Keegan says I want a left back who has to be quick and able to play the ball out of defence, Team Wise look at their databases and wittle down 5 or 6 options and show them to Keegan who then says "one of those three please", Team wise then open talks and if needed Keegan speaks to player and transfer is done. If Team Wise wants to sell a first teamer it has to be vetoed with Kev, he is THE MANAGER and he should know who is productive to the team. Quite simple really if they work together, if there is a clash of personalities then it won't work as people will just make the others impossible. Also if both sides have different objectives and aren't in synch with the club philosophy then it won't work. I personally think that it is a good idea as long as Keegan has the last say on first teamers, wise and co can have total power on young signings for the future...

I would go along with that. I reckon Ashley is more of a peacemaker between Keegan, Llambias and Team Wise when they don't see eye to eye. That is of course a role that the owner should play; make sure that all depts get on with each other and understand their roles and how the system/club works. This previous sentence is where Kev has his problenms..

Aye, it is a good description, fits with what keegans schematic is for the team; Hardworking in defence and attack...

I think dennis wise and the spanish blokes have done very well so far; Bassong (young under 21 international), Gutierrez (good money-quality player), Coloccini (Big money - consistency/international), Guthrie (young and decent-good price), Xisco (young but unknown?), Gonzalez (international-playmaker). What they haven't done is to ship out smith, ameobi which is also part of their job description, or was that Kev who blocked them...oops!

Ashley has deffo turned the club into a more serious business, there are no more silly signings and the people who have come through the door have obviously been well researched and are players who could realistically be at the club for another 7-8 years. I also like the fact that we don't throw silly titbits to the press and we let them dig large holes for themselves. The obvious drawback is that Keegan feels his authority is dwindling if the "rumours/speculation" are true in that the club was willing to sell Smith/Milner behind his back. I have my doubts that this is completely true, I expect Keegan was satisfied if he got the players in exchange for sellingthese players. My personal take is this: I would have been more than happy offloading smith (ecstatic) to everton and at 12.000.000 it was too good to be true for Milner! I, like Keegan, would have hoped for another two signings and think that perhaps there were strings pulled above keegans head and new players were not searched for with the vigour that is required. Keegan has got into a hissy and should just get on with his job, yes, he has reason to moan but not enough to quit!!

Just like to say.... I TOLD YOU SO!! Why did everyone believe a chinese whisper by our "oh so friendly" media chums???