Colos Short and Curlies
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Simply, yes there is a magical future money source coming in as we increase our commercial deals and yes we could sell a Bruno and bring in 4 £40-£50m players or we could bring in £20-30/£40m from squad players, bring in 1-2 new first teamers and use some of the kids on the cups to pad out the squad. may be slower, but it’s a better way to grow the first team
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after, they are this year
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thats pretty much exclusively hinting at selling to buy
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Are the replacement kecks an FFP deductible expense?
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it’s the starting point but there are a number of costs that you exclude as they are outside the FFP calculation
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Profit or loss in the accounts does not equal profit or loss for FFP calculations
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sorry I don’t think that’s quite true. lets say for simplicity the fee is 100 but 25% goes to Atlanta. We’d only be able to show 75 as our income from the sale and Atlanta will take the other 25 we May take the full 100 in cash but we’d have to sent the 25 straight out
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Twitter. Full of tweets made by twats
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Its great when posts align like this
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Would be Wilson when he starts would it not? I'd give it to Bruno in three games time (bound to get booked v Villa then 2 games in the stands), he'd embrace it
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Another minor point, the accounts are prepared using FRS102 and not IFRS. I'm getting bogged down in techy boring crap here but the 2 clauses that make this right are 1) Transfer of risk and reward - if Wood had got injured at any point to the 30th June we would be responsible for the treatment up to the 1st July 2) Continued management - he's still an employee of NUFC until the 1st July Its the same as buying a house, if you exchange contracts on the 30th June (lets say 9am) and complete on the 1st July then everything is in place on the 30th June but the sale happens on the 1st July, the 2 clauses above drive this. If there was a freak storm at 6pm on the 30th and the house caught fire the developer would need to call on their insurance to sort it out
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I've discussed this on here in the past, the loan and sale are 2 separate transactions and the sale is correctly transacted in the current year (in this case). The easy clauses for triggering the obligation are basically a fudge by clubs to manage the transfer periods. It may be closed in the future, before this there were a couple of years where players went on loan with a full transfer agreed at the same time for the following season, this was quickly closed as a option hence the loan with an obligation to buy (pending clauses being met) coming into fashion. Basically the terms of the sale are that the sale will happen on the 1st July if the obligations have been met in the preceding period. This allows the sale/purchase to be recognised in July
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They pushed the BJ sale into this year to maximise the value, but this has tripped them up FFP wise. Look at their net spend over the summer https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/nottingham-forest/transfers/verein/703 If they now look like tripping the FFP regs again this year, and feel that there is at least a 50% of a points deduction (and almost certain relegation) they may look to cash out on MGW now if there is a serious buyer. £40m is a lot of cash for them now, if they go down and trigger a FFP breach the vultures will circle so they may feel that is peak value.
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Just one minor point, the Wood Sale completed in this financial year so we won't have accrued anything in last years accounts so if we did buy MGW now they would both be in the same year
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interesting as the accounts don’t make disclosures about a number of lines that may influence the FFP disclosures so it’s pretty much guesswork as to how close we are.
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Players you were certain would be world class?
Colos Short and Curlies replied to Mike's topic in Football
Again not world class but up until his debut Freddie Woodman. seemed to have everything a keeper needed in youth teams (including England) but nothing translated to first team football. Obviously made a career in the championship but thought he’d do much more. -
Kieran Trippier: targeting return for Brighton (h) (Hope)
Colos Short and Curlies replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
after what happened when he moved to Madrid his friends will 100% be clued up here… (just pulling your leg) -
Kieran Trippier: targeting return for Brighton (h) (Hope)
Colos Short and Curlies replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
if there is any pull at all for him wanting/needing to be away then there is sense to get a few quid in for him seeing as we have his replacement here with probably the least pressurised half a season we’re going to have for a while and krafth as an able deputy. Hasn’t Ashby returned as well from Swansea?. it might not be mega bucks but it may also give us enough to bring in a midfielder on loan to fill a real gap. its nowhere near ideal, but it could give some benefit. bigger question for me is who become a captain? Assume it will be Burn but I’d love to see El Capitan Bruno -
Kieran Trippier: targeting return for Brighton (h) (Hope)
Colos Short and Curlies replied to Yorkie's topic in Football
we could do the same with Longstaff. Keep Trips but to have a genuine battle with Tino for the number 2 slot next season before yielding in 2025 to being backup and use the longstaff cash to beef up centre mid and right wing -
The best thing Onana has been involved in is Shearers entry for worst Dad joke of the year
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Ekitikes himself is still out there But Wilson may walk away for nothing next summer, it makes FFP sense to bank £10m for him now which gives us £40-£50m to spend on his replacement in the FFP world
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Javier Manquillo (now playing for Celta de Vigo)
Colos Short and Curlies replied to Parsley's topic in Football
I don't think playing left back at the start of his time here helped. He always looked a better player on the right -
(a) would that be disallowed for handball these days? (b) I'd love to see Pickford's reaction in berating his defence if he had made that mistake
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This time last season Miley wasn't on anyone's radar as a first team option. We have 18 months to sort it out