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Blatently only saw his first few results. Check out Falkirks recent run, in a very respectable position now

couldn't believe that a Dukes-Owen front line would be so toothless

Put Zoggy in behind Martins (i.e in the Beardsley role) Duff and a new right winger (with pace - Joaquin/SWP etc) A holding player and a box to box man (Fernandes and Appiah perhaps) Back to the Keegan 4-4-1-1 formation

If stablilty is having a healthy environemnt to achieve a considerable amount, then i want it. You need ambition to 'achieve a considerable amount' you don't just get that from stability. We do have ambition, but we didnt have the means to achieve it at the time that Allardyce took over, ie youth system, scouting, backroon staff etc. There didnt seem to be a plan but there was an apparent burdening debt which looked to afffect the future fo the club. Stability for me is having the platform to achieve something. We look like a different club off the field, but now we need to sort whats going on it. Whats the solution? Sack the manager, taking that stability away or stick with him see where he may lead us. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz So, we qualified for europe more than everybody but 4 teams, and everybody had a "plan" except us Crap stat, said it all before but you see what you wanna see. Not saying we didnt have a plan, but do you think we implented the plan to the end seeing as though you wanna go down that route? Boring. not for the first time, factual information destroys your entire "opinion" What do you mean "to the end". Are you saying we should have gave Dalglish, gullit, Souness or Roeder 5 years ? Facts which dont paint a true picture. Im saying that a plan has an point, do you think that the board implented there plan in the end? Are we reaping the benefits of this plan? Was Souness part of this long term plan? So we didn't have a "plan" during the era of Dalglish, Gullit, Souness and Roeder ? And you think we should have gave all of them more time to implement their "plans" If we had no "plan", then all those 87 clubs we qualified for europe more than, can't have had much of a "plan" themselves, wouldn't you agree ? At least 2 of our european campaigns have been back door though (losing cup finalists under Gullit, snaking into the Intertoto under Bobby) For "back door" what you really mean is, "within the rules that apply to all clubs." Agreed completely, but nothing to do with planning either is it?

I'm sure 5 live just said that Martins, Beye and Faye were unavailable due to ANC - thought it was only 2 of them. Milner is ill, so the Zog/Enrique combo is by default it seems

Funny how there have been a number of stories saynig the same thing about Ashley (even that tit Lawro got in on the act yesterday). Yet not one has bothered to look up the early stories where Ashley makes it clear that he has bought the lcub to be a fan and not to get bogged down in the day to day running.

If stablilty is having a healthy environemnt to achieve a considerable amount, then i want it. You need ambition to 'achieve a considerable amount' you don't just get that from stability. We do have ambition, but we didnt have the means to achieve it at the time that Allardyce took over, ie youth system, scouting, backroon staff etc. There didnt seem to be a plan but there was an apparent burdening debt which looked to afffect the future fo the club. Stability for me is having the platform to achieve something. We look like a different club off the field, but now we need to sort whats going on it. Whats the solution? Sack the manager, taking that stability away or stick with him see where he may lead us. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz So, we qualified for europe more than everybody but 4 teams, and everybody had a "plan" except us Crap stat, said it all before but you see what you wanna see. Not saying we didnt have a plan, but do you think we implented the plan to the end seeing as though you wanna go down that route? Boring. not for the first time, factual information destroys your entire "opinion" What do you mean "to the end". Are you saying we should have gave Dalglish, gullit, Souness or Roeder 5 years ? Facts which dont paint a true picture. Im saying that a plan has an point, do you think that the board implented there plan in the end? Are we reaping the benefits of this plan? Was Souness part of this long term plan? So we didn't have a "plan" during the era of Dalglish, Gullit, Souness and Roeder ? And you think we should have gave all of them more time to implement their "plans" If we had no "plan", then all those 87 clubs we qualified for europe more than, can't have had much of a "plan" themselves, wouldn't you agree ? At least 2 of our european campaigns have been back door though (losing cup finalists under Gullit, snaking into the Intertoto under Bobby)

What season are we expecting to see the fruits of this plan, any ideas? What if all these other pesky clubs have plans I have a plan that some class maverick, others say it is a timeless classic plan: HAVE BETTER PLAYERS THAN THE OPPOSTION & THEN WHEN YOU PLAY THEM SCORE MORE GOALS THAN THEM I dont know but lets sack him after 8 months and never find out rahter than giving him a reasonable amount of time to find out. Whilst I fully agree on giving the right man time - and it can be stongly argued that Sam's Premier League record should merit him a 'fitting in season', I'd question whether he is the right man to give the time to... If we give Sam 4 years he may get us into the top 6 as a matter of course (no one can say he will or he wont). But he has stated before that he wants to retire early, and is therefore unlikely to give us any more of his time. What then? Do we get in another pragmatic defensive coach and continue to be bored? Or do we then get an attacking coach who will need to change the midfield and forward line? Or do we look for a younger, forward thinking coach who we can look to long term and also allow succession planning to take place? (Had this discussion at work this week and it was easier to talk about then get it down in a short post so apologies if it seems muddled...)

Keegan was after Leeds wasn't it? If I'm right in that then we went to Forest (drew) then had the potatoes at home (drew) Yeah because one of his points was about Ferguson objecting to us playing Nottingham Forest on the Thursday, because we were involved in a testimonial for Stuart Pearce (?) at some stage, I think. Ian Woan. If we had held on for a point at Blackburn then beat Forest and Spurs we would have won the league. Or if we had drawn with ManU then beaten one of Forest or Spurs. So fecking close, essentially 2 goals would have won it for us. Beating Man United at SJP would have won it. still 2 goals! just another mix in the pot.

Look at the sadistic cockney t*** on the bottom right of the fans. And is that a god ugly woman or a bloke with fantastic hair infront of the kid in the grey top (front centre of pic)?

Keegan was after Leeds wasn't it? If I'm right in that then we went to Forest (drew) then had the potatoes at home (drew) Yeah because one of his points was about Ferguson objecting to us playing Nottingham Forest on the Thursday, because we were involved in a testimonial for Stuart Pearce (?) at some stage, I think. Ian Woan. If we had held on for a point at Blackburn then beat Forest and Spurs we would have won the league. Or if we had drawn with ManU then beaten one of Forest or Spurs. So fecking close, essentially 2 goals would have won it for us.

Shearer and Crooks are doing our game. Pearce and Bright are the commentary team. Could be interesting if we don't win, no oportunity just to let crooks talk about the game. Actually, this is Garth Crooks, so just let him ask one question and he will be going for hours....

Is Shearer doing the game tonight?

Thats what i would play but Smith will be in there Smith instead of Dukes for me. Can see this being a game that the FAB doesn't fancy and doesn't turn up for

Keegan was after Leeds wasn't it? If I'm right in that then we went to Forest (drew) then had the potatoes at home (drew)

Did making a speech when we were behind on points with one game left really throw the league away? 2 games wasn't it?

Hardly. His career aye, but English football? Can you not imagine the difference having a player of that class and ability playing for England for the next decade could have done? Gary Charles was all but finished by then anyway to be fair

Cardiff (who themselves are in a bit of financial bother) paid for and supplied the stewards etc for their away game yesterday at Chasetown

Is Martins available or not? Shame Duff is crocked, I would love to see a front 4 of Duff Zog Milner Martins Playing like the Keegan teams pre Shearer - 4-4-1-1 Duff left wing Milner right wing Zog playing the Beardsley role Martins playing the Cole/Les role

No, Just no mate. Knew it was coming tbh Problems i see when looking at that: 1. Stephen Carr is playing - Recipe for disaster. 2.Beye is playing out of his usual position - Recipe for disaster. 3. Taylor is not only playing out of position but in a role where he will feel uncomfortable using his weaker foot - Recipe for disaster. 4.Smith is not a midfielder in any way,shape or form, he's not creative so i wouldn't know how we could possibly supply Viduka - Recipe for disaster. 5.Viduka - No use upfront on his own, he would have no one running past him and would be simply laying it off to our midfielders with no one else coming into play - Recipe for disaster. If we ever have to play those four at the back it should be Beye - Taylor - Faye - Carr

Absolutely right - that goal at SJP when he left Dabizas for dead before sticking it in, just about all in one movement, was sheer class... Admitted it was a fluke didn't he? Either way, for my money the best player the premier league has had the pleasure to host

He's on talksport enough too. Could drop them a line also

Graham Rix

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2650/frontpagethursda413332aqn8.jpg Shocking journalism. Should have smuggled a camera phone inside and put the footage on You Tube

Still get rid for me, and still a 55:45 split I see!