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Poor game. Poor performance. Poor refereeing. Poor result. Poor luck. More not less pressure. Weather's good though.

Dreading the last 10' if it stays like this. Radabe off the bar vibes

Think it was open season on NUFC at the time, which I wasn't against with the owner and feel that away shirt was much maligned still think that piece of garbage under Dalglish in 97/98 is the most putrid thing I've ever seen - the shirt that is, not what he did to Keegan's team

I know. They've both got different ends of the stadium in Italy anyway so its not even as compliacted as Palace v Wimbledon at Selhurst was. When one's at home they get the home dressing room and the other teams allocation is in their 'Gallowgate'. Still don't get it, every stadium has three dressing rooms for the teams and refs.

The form we went down in under Rafa was better than the form we finished 2nd in under Keegan.

That's pretty much me too. Its more a case of not wanting to count my chickens and tempt fate when it comes to NUFC. And that colliding with people that feel different and vice-versa. One's sides percieved hubris bothers the other and the other sides doubting the other. Whilst seeing potential pit-falls in any game - a debut, new manager, return from injury, good record against, bad record against is actually often a sign that logically (on the field) I feel were covered.

Never heard of that but also don't understand why they'd need three.

Remember when Zamorano was 8+1 or something? *yes I see clearly people do. Recoba appreciated the applause for his goal and said he'd had it once before for Uruguay at Peru.

Think its the straight knock-out versus league format is a factor. No immediacy with the CL format (all formats now - at least one should be a knock-out) Metz, Dinamo Zagreb in the 90s all sold out - and Roma brought a fair wedge. Then so did Kiev and PSV in the CL. Maybe its more that there was no novelty to Europe for a lot of these clubs, in it every year and more so for Italian and Spanish sides who were a big game for others but not vice-versa.

Re the CL gates. You had to apply for the tickets you wanted all at once and it was very expensive, in fact the first time I realised how expensive it all got just seeing season tickets as a tax. Putting in for an away game for me meant blowing off one of the home games. Very few teams sold out their games back then - that includes Liverpool, Rangers, both Milan's, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Juventus and Barcelona.* There's no other explanation as to why Rangers would get 45,000 against Motherwell at the weekend and 33,000 against Dortmund in the CL. *Liverpool's first game in the Champions League was 30,000 (less than what they got for Grimsby a month later - though they often got really poor cup gates even when they were dominant) - they only sold out twice in eight home games.

We've been to both them too (albeit 19years (doesn't feel like it) in one case)

Never fancy anybody playing a team that's just had a battering. They often redouble their efforts to avoid the same consequence in the next game. (besides which Arsenal can fuck right off)

Agree especially in their case - might be the best season they'll ever see and you really ought to experience all of it. Doesn't look good in the history books to throw the toys up and nash off in such circumstances. Much more of a new fan thing, of which most of these Brighton fans are.

Perfect weekend for Scousers (and their North-East sub-species) just need Forest for a full set

Off the top of my head that seems right. Remember inexperienced contenders falling away and the experienced one's not. Leicester being a obvious exception (and Man United's total (and brushed under the carpet) collapse in 98). Lot of title collapses (even from some that won it - Leeds and Blackburn) from newbies to a sides that had more experience. Of which we have first hand experience of course and actually finished the second season of finishing 2nd strongly. Lot to be said for it.

I feel the second half will be painful. No need from Everton and Brighton's style not conducive to necessity

Sort of crazy thing that happens in football. But when you bare that in mind on here you can get slaughtered for it.

Its not like Everton could just go and win 3-0 at Brighton or anything, everything goes according to logic in football.

Got shafted with a terrible decision, hope justice prevails.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery

Quite a few correctly called 'bed wet' the outcome of all that

Play Offs too. Nobody wants to be in the PL

Millwall will be lucky to draw this. They've completely shit the bed this last month or so.

The Prophet: Ah man, I hate it when events that I've selected from around 30 years ago repeat themselves with a different owner, manager and team. It's the worst.

What's wrong with people being different anyway? Some people are cautious some are optimistic generally and especially in football. It doesn't make you a top fan one way or other and the same people at different times have been on both sides The idea of fans having their doubts isn't the new thing so much as people reacting to this long established part of being a fan. It goes with the territory, part of what makes it what it is and probably preferrable to the existence of a Man City fan. People had nerves and doubts in the best season we've ever seen (95/96), that's not negativty and it didn't effect support levels, on the contrary probably as a release, and that's irrespective of how it panned out, was completely justifiable to be that close to something and not feel how you did in earlier in the season.