Steve McClaren

[joeyt]

Could it be that McClaren merely decided to play his strongest central striker (Chris Martin) in that position, rather than shoehorning him out wide for the sake of developing one of Chelsea's players who he never had a chance of signing permanently?

 

Yeah I thought that too. Him playing on the wing coincided with Derby's best form since dropping from the top division too so must have done something right

[Mick]

Free flowing attacking football, blimey.

 

His only Premier League job saw him play exclusively turgid negative stuff. People seem to be forgetting that you can't get out of the Championship trying not to get beat every week.

 

His remit here will be to finish in mid-table, no better, no worse. The idea of him taking that remit and not going back to what did the same job for him in the past is, imo, a fantasy.

 

Are you still pretending he was crap for boro? Because your "friends" told you this.

 

I work with a boro fan and he is the greatest manager in their history.

 

Doesn't mean I want him but don't change history.

I worked with a lass whose brother ran on the pitch and threw his season ticket at McClaren and I can only guess that he didn't do that as a sign of appreciation.

[Shak]

This cunt have a preferred formation then or what kind of players does he tend to try and build around?

[colinmk]

If he's given the job I'll reserve judgement on him. He's a mediocre manager who happens to be of better pedigree than the last 5 we've appointed.

You'll do the usual Ronaldo cycle, i.e. I'm not impressed but it's not as bad as you plebs are making out - it's actually great having a proper manager, unlike the last one that you all loved - he's a god amongst men and far more handsome than I ever realised actually, can't believe you lot thought the last guy would be better - OK it's gone a bit shit but he's not half as shit as your hero Coloccini - Right, I'm turning up outside his house to have a word unlike you cowards.

 

 

[mozy]

I don't particularly want McClaren, but he is the best British coach around. Some of the childish hate on here is frightening. His CV is excellent. 

[Guest Roger Kint]

I don't particularly want McClaren, but he is the best British coach around. Some of the childish hate on here is frightening. His CV is excellent. 

 

I'd agree with this.

 

As would i if he stopped typing after 'McClaren'

[Guest firetotheworks]

If he's given the job I'll reserve judgement on him. He's a mediocre manager who happens to be of better pedigree than the last 5 we've appointed.

You'll do the usual Ronaldo cycle, i.e. I'm not impressed but it's not as bad as you plebs are making out - it's actually great having a proper manager, unlike the last one that you all loved - he's a god amongst men and far more handsome than I ever realised actually, can't believe you lot thought the last guy would be better - OK it's gone a bit shit but he's not half as shit as your hero Coloccini - Right, I'm turning up outside his house to have a word unlike you cowards.

 

 

Just seen this now. Absolutely nailed it.

[Mick]

If he's given the job I'll reserve judgement on him. He's a mediocre manager who happens to be of better pedigree than the last 5 we've appointed.

You'll do the usual Ronaldo cycle, i.e. I'm not impressed but it's not as bad as you plebs are making out - it's actually great having a proper manager, unlike the last one that you all loved - he's a god amongst men and far more handsome than I ever realised actually, can't believe you lot thought the last guy would be better - OK it's gone a bit s*** but he's not half as s*** as your hero Coloccini - Right, I'm turning up outside his house to have a word unlike you cowards.

 

 

Just seen this now. Absolutely nailed it.

He has.

[Cronky]

Could it be that McClaren merely decided to play his strongest central striker (Chris Martin) in that position, rather than shoehorning him out wide for the sake of developing one of Chelsea's players who he never had a chance of signing permanently?

 

Yeah I thought that too. Him playing on the wing coincided with Derby's best form since dropping from the top division too so must have done something right

 

Yeah. Ultimately what matters is whether the decision was right, not whether Bamford liked it.

[Klaus]

Someone should knock up a Ronaldo boom-bust cycle.

[Guest antz1uk]

I don't particularly want McClaren, but he is the best British coach around. Some of the childish hate on here is frightening. His CV is excellent. 

 

I'd agree with this.

 

I don't. and why on earth must a coach be British anyway?

 

as for the bold, it is not excellent by a long way. he's an uninspirinig coach that has zero charisma, of whom i can see players getting completely bored with, has zero plan B, he won a league cup with Boro, at a time when nobody but bolton, Leicester and the likes took it seriously and fluked his way to a UEFA cup final, before getting absolutely murdered in it. he failed at Derby, Forest, Wolfsburg and the 2nd time at Twente, he won the league in Holland which is the Dutch equivalent of the SPL.

[Pilko]

Could it be that McClaren merely decided to play his strongest central striker (Chris Martin) in that position, rather than shoehorning him out wide for the sake of developing one of Chelsea's players who he never had a chance of signing permanently?

 

Yeah I thought that too. Him playing on the wing coincided with Derby's best form since dropping from the top division too so must have done something right

 

Yeah. Ultimately what matters is whether the decision was right, not whether Bamford liked it.

 

Has some similiarites with the Ba/Cisse/HBA front three and then Pardew dropping his arse about Ba booting off, changing to the shit 4-4-2 and almost relegating us due to Ba fucking off anyway. Hopefully McClaren would at least stick with something if it seemed to work.

[The College Dropout]

So McClaren likes a target man.... we haevn't had a decent target man in yonks

[Wullie]

The Eredivisie might well be like the SPL but he effectively won it with Dundee United, it was an impressive feat that shouldn't be downplayed. He did achieve it in a fairly negative manner mind, his team scored about 40 goals less than the team in second, but a real achievement nevertheless.

 

His cup runs at Boro don't mean anything more than Alex McLeish, Graeme Souness, Roberto Di Matteo and Avram Grant's ability to win a few games in a particular competition during a shit league season. Just ignore them.

[Guest firetotheworks]

We've played like we had one, and we did have one until 2010. Personally I'd rather not have a target man, or play like we have one.

[TRon]

Target men are fine as long as you don't target them from 70 yards away.

[sugoinufc]

its not that im 100% against McClaren. The problem is  - he is only given the job coz he accepts to work under Fat Mikes strict setup!

 

Nothing will change! same strategy.

 

Worst part is the backroom staff - my gosh!

 

Im expecting a slightly better manager than pardew, nothing more!

 

Season objective: finish between 8-15

 

Cup run: not really

 

1-5 years with this shit is my guess!

 

Fat Mike came out on tv one time and lied us straight to the face.

 

By the way. Vieira = PR stunt

 

ASHLEY OUT

[Heake]

Personally, I`m not happy with this, but I`m prepared to accentuate the pluses to at least give me a fighting chance of being optimistic for next season.

 

I think the main plus is his relationship with Carr, which should, assuming there really IS money to spend & we don't get cheap & lose scouted players for the sake of nominal amounts, allow us the opportunity of preparing a decent squad.

 

The litmus test will be on 1st September when the window is shut & we are 3-4 games into the season.

 

However, I have grave reservations about Charnleys ability to get bodies "over the line" & it remains to be seen whether Mikes speech about letting the purse strings loosen  was one of substance or just the usual Cack.

 

I think the bottom line is that, assuming the brief for a new manager was to have to work within the current buying / selling structure, then McLaren was probably the most suitable candidate. As much as Viera would have been an exciting prospect, he would have been subject to the same frustrations Keegan encountered & would have probably walked by Xmass.

 

 

[The College Dropout]

We've played like we had one, and we did have one until 2010. Personally I'd rather not have a target man, or play like we have one.

 

I do think we need a player with target man capabilities. You look at Arsenal with Giroud, Chelsea Costa, City with Bony/Dzeko before him, Lewandowski at Bayern, Harry Kane doesn't provide flick-ons but the ball sticks to him like glue. You can fire the ball chest height to Aguero from 20 yards and it will stick.

 

Our problem is we love a true long-ball. But there's been plenty of times the lack of hold up play has restricted us. A Newcastle team has to be somewhat direct (in the SAF sense not Big Sam). Move it forward quickly.

[TRon]

Wide players who can put in a decent delivery are every bit as important as a target man. We haven't had one for years. Janmaat's probably the best and he's a full back.

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We've played like we had one, and we did have one until 2010. Personally I'd rather not have a target man, or play like we have one.

 

I'm not against having a target man, you don't need to play negative football with one by any means.

 

For instance, I'd count both Giroud and Negredo as target man and Arsenal nor Valencia play 'direct' by any means.

 

 

[Wilson]

I look forward to dossing around local pubs on matchday for the foreseeable.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

We've played like we had one, and we did have one until 2010. Personally I'd rather not have a target man, or play like we have one.

 

I'm not against having a target man, you don't need to play negative football with one by any means.

 

For instance, I'd count both Giroud and Negredo as target man and Arsenal nor Valencia play 'direct' by any means.

Giroud isn't a target man

[Guest firetotheworks]

It doesn't have to be negative, but it has been and it almost certainly will be. Using top teams as examples doesn't really stick when you're talking about an NUFC led by Ashley, managed by McClaren.

 

It's fantasy to think that it would be anything other than more of the same Big Sam/Pulis style, because even if McClaren had the best intentions of using the long ball 'going direct' or as an option among ones where we play nice football, rather than a main plan, we don't and won't have the players at the back to make it anything other than a regular panicked choice, with no good football being played (Williamson etc), nor the player(s) up front to make it look effective when they do (Carroll)

[mozy]

I don't particularly want McClaren, but he is the best British coach around. Some of the childish hate on here is frightening. His CV is excellent. 

 

I'd agree with this.

 

I don't. and why on earth must a coach be British anyway?

 

as for the bold, it is not excellent by a long way. he's an uninspirinig coach that has zero charisma, of whom i can see players getting completely bored with, has zero plan B, he won a league cup with Boro, at a time when nobody but bolton, Leicester and the likes took it seriously and fluked his way to a UEFA cup final, before getting absolutely murdered in it. he failed at Derby, Forest, Wolfsburg and the 2nd time at Twente, he won the league in Holland which is the Dutch equivalent of the SPL.

 

I didn't say he had to be british, I just said he's the best.

 

The rest of your post is horrendous, you can't write off a cup win simply saying no-one else took it seriously. If it was that easy then more teams would have tried to win it. He failed at Wolfsburg and Forest but only had half a season in charge of each. He has a win % over 50 in both Twente spells and had a fantastic spell in charge at Derby.

 

I don't particularly want McClaren but he gets an unfairly rough deal due to the England debacle, and his managerial talent level deserves to be managing in the Premier League.