mrmojorisin75 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Conceding in the first ten minutes has become a bit of a specialty like; happened 3 times out of 6 PL games so far this season. Coupled with generally being under the cosh immediately at the start of games this suggests that we just don't come out of the dressing room with the right mentality at all. Too philosophy-focused, imo, we've had to tighten up after the opening minutes in 4 of the 6 games. Had too much faith in their ability and mental strength to cope. Haidara has been dispossessed in his own third 9 times this season, only Glen Johnson has more. Think that says it all. This playing out from the back stuff might be starting to look better but there's a time and a place. In the opening minutes against confident, direct opposition isn't that time I agree with this. Trouble is without Mitrovic there's no option to go direct ourselves, which takes an option away to play some Pardew front foot football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Conceding in the first ten minutes has become a bit of a specialty like; happened 3 times out of 6 PL games so far this season. Coupled with generally being under the cosh immediately at the start of games this suggests that we just don't come out of the dressing room with the right mentality at all. Too philosophy-focused, imo, we've had to tighten up after the opening minutes in 4 of the 6 games. Had too much faith in their ability and mental strength to cope. Haidara has been dispossessed in his own third 9 times this season, only Glen Johnson has more. Think that says it all. This playing out from the back stuff might be starting to look better but there's a time and a place. In the opening minutes against confident, direct opposition isn't that time I agree with this. Trouble is without Mitrovic there's no option to go direct ourselves, which takes an option away to play some Pardew front foot football The next best option for us is percentages clearances up the flank, probably. Still pretty shit but better than pretty much gifting opposition the chance to get the ball in and around the box. Looking forward to Mitro back, not least because he's not a moderate enough character to need the time to settle before bollocking the shit out of players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Conceding in the first ten minutes has become a bit of a specialty like; happened 3 times out of 6 PL games so far this season. Coupled with generally being under the cosh immediately at the start of games this suggests that we just don't come out of the dressing room with the right mentality at all. Too philosophy-focused, imo, we've had to tighten up after the opening minutes in 4 of the 6 games. Had too much faith in their ability and mental strength to cope. Haidara has been dispossessed in his own third 9 times this season, only Glen Johnson has more. Think that says it all. This playing out from the back stuff might be starting to look better but there's a time and a place. In the opening minutes against confident, direct opposition isn't that time I agree with this. Trouble is without Mitrovic there's no option to go direct ourselves, which takes an option away to play some Pardew front foot football The next best option for us is percentages clearances up the flank, probably. Still pretty shit but better than pretty much gifting opposition the chance to get the ball in and around the box. Looking forward to Mitro back, not least because he's not a moderate enough character to need the time to settle before bollocking the shit out of players Aye, he's literally our only hope to not be completely cut adrift by January. Just turned 21 and played what 2 games in this country? Piss easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/newcastle-united-plan-transfer-summit-as-steve-mcclaren-eyes-big-january-spend-1-7475496 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/newcastle-united-plan-transfer-summit-as-steve-mcclaren-eyes-big-january-spend-1-7475496 that'll keep the bums on seats EDIT: the best part is once we hit january and they release the stories about having the meeting "next week" to identify targets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/newcastle-united-plan-transfer-summit-as-steve-mcclaren-eyes-big-january-spend-1-7475496 that'll keep the bums on seats EDIT: the best part is once we hit january and they release the stories about having the meeting "next week" to identify targets It's happened too many times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We're in "I'll drink my own piss" territory when it comes to bringing in a left back and a centre midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/newcastle-united/latest-nufc-news/newcastle-united-plan-transfer-summit-as-steve-mcclaren-eyes-big-january-spend-1-7475496 that'll keep the bums on seats EDIT: the best part is once we hit january and they release the stories about having the meeting "next week" to identify targets It's happened too many times. Here's a thought, how about as well as buying some "potential" in the summer as they have done you bring in some solid, proven signings who will do the job. You might then not have to panic buy in January because you realise you've fucked up........again. Buying proven quality while more expensive amazingly increases your chances of staying in the league and finishing much higher up thereby guaranteeing lots of £££££. Instead they refuse to pay a few extra million which is dwarfed by the potential earnings of a decent, productive, clinical side. Honestly the people running this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We bought a fair bit of quality this summer really. We're always playing catchup obviously, but we bought some good players. We have bought quality in the past and completely wasted it as well. And teams like Swansea can buy questionable players (eg Gomis) and have them excel. It's the lack of a philosophy or an idea of what to do with them that's the problem. McClaren is our only hope to fix that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We bought a fair bit of proven quality this summer really. We're always playing catchup obviously, but we bought some good players. We have bought quality in the past and completely wasted it as well. And teams like Swansea can buy questionable players (eg Gomis) and have them excel. It's the lack of a philosophy or an idea of what to do with them that's the problem. McClaren is our only hope to fix that. To be fair his philosophy at the outset - keep it tight, keep and move the ball, work from the back are fundamentally speaking ok. However, we have a woeful defence (aside Mbemba and Janmaat) so this is a floored approach. He has realised this and is over compensating with two DM's, who are both woefully shite in those roles too. So by my calculations 36% of his back 6 are no where near good enough. That puts pressure on the rest of the team to sit deeper etc. No point even commenting on the strikers. OK, service has been poor but see above. We all knew a new CB, LB were absolutely essential and somehow the club have failed to see that time and time again. He should be getting a lot more from what he has got but that said, relying on Colo, Williamson, Haidara, permacrock et al was always going to be a loosing bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think he might turn it around, just has to get through the shitstorm of losing so much early on. I was a bit concerned that he dropped Anita when he seemed key to our new approach, but we'll see what he does next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We basically still need at least one quality CD one DM (a proper one), a left back and maybe another two F/str (with movement and intelligence) to play from the back. 100m might cover it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Crowing about quality over quantity and now this. Fucking idiots and they get so much time from the fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 quality CB, LB, DCM, FW = 4 new faces in january please! and what do we do when Janmaat gets injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I don't think we need 4 players to be a decent team. If we could get 2 quality players in any of those 2 positions to come in and hit the ground running we would fly up the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 A proper centre back and central midfielder would see us through fine, striker and left back next. It's the defensive spine of the team that's killing us. There's more goals across the squad, IMO, but they need to be confident and have a platform to work from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah minimum is CB and a physically commanding DM/CM imo, with that we can improve rapidly but you'd want a backup CF like - can't see Mitrovic lasting the season even if he is good when he gets back in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Anyone still remember the Charney statement? Fuck off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah CB and CM are obvious. It's difficult to assess the rest really until that's sorted out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yeah CB and CM are obvious. It's difficult to assess the rest really until that's sorted out. Agree with this too. Especially a CM that can do the job of the two knackers we have had running around in that position. Would then free up a space for a more attacking minded player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Key is coming in and hitting a great level from the off. Very difficult imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 £50m on gambles, but the biggest gamble was free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ashley literally doesn't have any other football marra's/cronies he can call upon does he? Beardsley aside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Shite, as bad as Pardew and I don't have the hatred for him like Pardew as he doesn't seem to be a cunt so I can't enjoy hating him properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Everything this club does is a gamble, we have no strategy long term or short term with the goal of "get top 8" somewhere down the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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