Dan Gleebals Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I will never like the bloke, however, he seems to have responded well to the pressure and request for better football. Something our useless manager is incapable of doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Did hippo head throw Russell brand to the floor a la Steve Steve for his isolent affection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I will never like the bloke, however, he seems to have responded well to the pressure and request for better football. Something our useless manager is incapable of doing. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 'Stick to your priciples' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I sometimes find myself warming to Fat Sam, but only because I always imagine that the parody twitter account is actually his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Why is credit due to Allardyce when you yourself are saying that the only reason they are playing better is because the board went over his head and brought in a coach to make them play more attacking football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Why is credit due to Allardyce when you yourself are saying that the only reason they are playing better is because the board went over his head and brought in a coach to make them play more attacking football? i assumed from that allardyce brought the coach in...who is the coach anyways? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Why is credit due to Allardyce when you yourself are saying that the only reason they are playing better is because the board went over his head and brought in a coach to make them play more attacking football? i assumed from that allardyce brought the coach in...who is the coach anyways? Teddy Sheringham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Why is credit due to Allardyce when you yourself are saying that the only reason they are playing better is because the board went over his head and brought in a coach to make them play more attacking football? i assumed from that allardyce brought the coach in...who is the coach anyways? Teddy Sheringham. Must be all the females he's bringing to the events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 on the one hand it doesn't bode well that a professional football manager with his experience has to bring in someone to help him out at getting his team to attack but then i suppose he's showing he's not too much of a cunt to try something different at the partial expense of his reputation rodgers might want to think about getting some help with defending Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Personally I'd have just sacked the fat cunt and gave Sheringham the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Rather like us a couple of years ago, they're doing so well because they brought in some decent players who have been playing well and with confidence. Think this has little to do with Fat Sam tbh. Leopard can't change his spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Meh, Allardyce has encouraged his sides to play an awful style of football for well over a decade. Don't let West Hams current form cloud that. They are playing well in spite of him, not because of him imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. Why is credit due to Allardyce when you yourself are saying that the only reason they are playing better is because the board went over his head and brought in a coach to make them play more attacking football? Because he's an arrogant prick but he has agreed to change his (apparently world class) style of play. There's no doubt Allardyce knows how to make a team solid at the back but he's a dinosaur when it comes to attacking play. He seems to have accepted that the fans deserve to see something better. I thought he would have taken the hump and jumped ship at the mere suggestion his team should play better football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Was told by his board that if he wanted to keep his job he'd have to start playing better, more attacking football. Brought in a coach to work specifically with the attacking players and the results are there for all to see. Key points: - Board listening to the fans and exerting some influence - Board backing the manager with decent funds to strengthen - Manager accepting a request to change his style rather than spitting his arrogant dummy out - Manager swallows his pride and brings in a coach to work on the area that he is weakest in The similarities between West Ham last season and us now are huge. The major difference is that none of those things would ever happen here. I hate Allardyce but credit where it's due. From what I heard on that journalist footballing show on Sundays SS - it was the board that wanted to bring in an attacking coach in Sheringham, not Allardyce. But to his credit Allardyce accepted all of their demands but I'm mostly going to credit the board. They know with Allardyce you won't get relegated. As they move into the new stadium that's the most important thing. An unambitious board like ours would tell the fans to lump it because they'll stay up and leave it at that. But they've applied pressure to Sam & importantly backed him in the transfer market with quality players of his ilk. Big strong, quick but also technically very good. Alex Song is one of those African players that are probably unfairly credited and restricted as DM's but actually has a great eye for a pass. Fat Mike wouldn't back the manager properly in investment not just spending what we bring in. Certainly won't get him players in his mould. And doesn't challenge him to do better other than the financial reward of a top 10 finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Even Sam Allardyce only works on defending one day per week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I've read that Teddy Sheringham gets literally 30 minutes with the strikers per week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I don't get this hate for Allardyce on here. Sure he was shite for us but Pardew bad? No way. Fact is his record is pretty damn good and he's a consistent PL manager. The list of managers who fail in these league, even those with supposed pedigree abroad is far longer than managers like Allardyce who succeed. Fact is Allardyce has made a concious effort to change playing style due to board and fan pressure and it's paying dividends. This is not Pardew doing well for the one season he does at every club. This is a manager actually working to improve tactically. In actual fact Allardyce is the opposite of Pardew. Teams under him start badly but tend to establish themselves and get better. IMO Allardyce is certainly better than Bruce, Pardew and any other English manager I can think of at club level at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Think it's the current wankfest over Allardyce and his new "west ham way" bollocks - there were some stats on MoTD last night that proved they're playing the same % of long and short passes as last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I don't get this hate for Allardyce on here. Sure he was shite for us but Pardew bad? No way. Fact is his record is pretty damn good and he's a consistent PL manager. The list of managers who fail in these league, even those with supposed pedigree abroad is far longer than managers like Allardyce who succeed. Fact is Allardyce has made a concious effort to change playing style due to board and fan pressure and it's paying dividends. This is not Pardew doing well for the one season he does at every club. This is a manager actually working to improve tactically. In actual fact Allardyce is the opposite of Pardew. Teams under him start badly but tend to establish themselves and get better. IMO Allardyce is certainly better than Bruce, Pardew and any other English manager I can think of at club level at the moment. I'd say it's average at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 People are allowing the fact that Allardyce has a decent set up with Andy Carroll to cloud their judgement on him as a manager. His turgid, one dimensional excuse for football is obviously going to get rewards when you've got Andy Carroll imasculating defenders in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 People are allowing the fact that Allardyce has a decent set up with Andy Carroll to cloud their judgement on him as a manager. His turgid, one dimensional excuse for football is obviously going to get rewards when you've got Andy Carroll imasculating defenders in the air. Have you seen them play this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Allardyce, as rubbish as his football generally is, has shown himself to be a much better manager than Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Allardyce, as rubbish as his football generally is, has shown himself to be a much better manager than Pardew. Aye - Sam always has a footballing plan even if it's terrible. He was awful for us and he's not a good manager but I think he's always good for 40 points in the PL minimum. The side he has now is probably his wet dream - Pardew's too. Strong quick lads everywhere - a few of them can really play. Downing's been great as well. And a couple lads that gobble up attacking headers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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